If You Love Someone

[Debp]

14 hours ago, Biblican said:

According to history, the Jews and the Palestinians were all living together in peace. Then one of the Rothschilds from the illuminati banking family started buying up land there and importing Jews from Europe to run them. These were not Semite Jews, descendants from Abraham for the most part they were converts. When they ran out of housing and the Arabs refused to sell, the Jews formed terrorists groups to drive out the Arabs and the British. The Jews attacked one village, and massacred over 200 men, women and children which started an exodus of the Arabs out of Palestine. It has been said that if it wasn't for that attack there would be no Israel today. So the whole problem originated when the Jews drove the Arabs out of their homes. They had lived there for 1300 years.  The Jews are still trying to drive them out of their homes and this is why the Jews need to repent and the Palestinians need to forgive. God gave the land to the Jews, but they were required by God to live as one with the strangers in their land. The Arabs are more than that, they are also Abraham's seed and have a right to live there with the Jews. There will not be a solution to this until Jesus returns. The Jews' behavior is one reason why God says He will bring their enemies upon them in the latter days. 

The Jews are being portrayed as the victims, but the whole problem originated with their aggressions which is downplayed and covered up. They spend a lot of money buying favorable press. They were offering $5,000 to YouTube influencers to produce favorable content about Israel. And what most people don't know is Israel funded Hamas in order to prevent negotiations for a two state solution which the Israelis do not want.

"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."  Benjamin Netanyahu -2019 at a Likud party conference

Gershon Hacohen, former commander of the 7th Armored Brigade and an associate of Benjamin Netanyahu, said in 2019 in an interview [32]:

“Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”[33]

Bezalel Smotrich, a far-right lawmaker and finance minister under Netanyahu Government, called the Palestinian Authority a "burden" and Hamas an "asset"

On January 19, 2024, Reuters reported that Josep Borrell, the EU foreign policy chief, said while receiving an honorary doctorate from the University of Valladolid that "Israel had financed the creation of Palestinian militant group Hamas, publicly contradicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu who has denied such allegations." and that "Borrell added the only peaceful solution included the creation of a Palestinian state. 'We only believe a two-state solution imposed from the outside would bring peace even though Israel insists on the negative,' he said." [35] [36] Borrell also described Israel as having "created Hamas", but immediately continued saying that "yes, Hamas was financed by Israel to weaken the Palestinian Authority". [37] [38] [39]

Professor Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official, publicly acknowledged that Hamas was "Israel's creation."[40] Similar statements have been made by Yasser Arafat.[41]

Shlomo Brom [he], retired general and former deputy to Israel's national security adviser, believes that an empowered Hamas helps Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu avoid negotiating over a Palestinian state, suggesting that there is no viable partner for peace talks.[27]

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My understanding is that the Palestinians (in history) have been offered a two-State solution more than once....but they wouldn't accept it.

Also, currently when I watch videos of Palestinians and Israelis being interviewed, the Israelis want to compromise and want peace.   But the Palestinians said they want all of the land and no peace if it means compromising with the Jews.

One old Palestinian man started to say he would want to compromise...but then he stopped and said to the interviewer "Do you want to get me killed?"

 

[Edward429451]

11 hours ago, Debp said:

My understanding is that the Palestinians (in history) have been offered a two-State solution more than once....but they wouldn't accept it.

Also, currently when I watch videos of Palestinians and Israelis being interviewed, the Israelis want to compromise and want peace.   But the Palestinians said they want all of the land and no peace if it means compromising with the Jews.

One old Palestinian man started to say he would want to compromise...but then he stopped and said to the interviewer "Do you want to get me killed?"

 

 

And people still insist on believing the propaganda.

Brothers & Sisters, that deception has always been the primary weapon of the enemy. And in today's world that translates into, you cant believe anything your hear and only half of what you see, if that much. 

 

They have developed a fool proof test to be able to see when certain Politicians and all Democrats are lying or not. How it's done is you look them in the face very closely...are their lips moving? If yes, they're lying, If No, they're not lying. 

[Biblican]

21 hours ago, Edward429451 said:

There may well indeed be fishy things going on over there, but do you know this for sure? You have been to Israel and verified it? Or was it from a video blurb of a bunch of people in robes & turbans jumping up and down with some signs? That sort of thing is so easily faked to look real. You are not skeptical enough I think. That sort of thing sounds too far fetched to me to be real. 

I am on a news feed direct from Israel. I have photos of the protests. 100,000 people took to the streets in cities all over Israel. The teachers are going on strike and all the universities are supporting them. The leaders over there are calling for a shut down of the entire country if Netanyahu does not stop the bombing and resume negotiations because he is jeopardizing the hostages. He violated the terms of the ceasefire, Hamas was holding their end of the bargain.

[Biblican]

22 hours ago, Edward429451 said:

 

I dunno. Do you feel a calling to go to Israel and spread the good news to a bunch of hard necked old Rabbis? 

 

The last I heard that it is illegal to try to convert someone to Christ over there. So they still have some growing to do. 

There is a bit of a revival going on in some places. Organizations like One for Israel are very active there. It is illegal to preach publicly, but you can share the gospel one on one. They have been trying to pass a law for 30 years now to ban Christianity completely from the country but they can't pass it. That is the one good thing Netanyahu is doing, he supports the evangelicals because they support him. There is some indication in Rev. 11, that when the beast shuts down the two witnesses which represent the gospel in Israel, that will trigger the blood bath at the end of 14.

[Biblican]

21 hours ago, maddy07 said:

My thought exactly lately 

Thank you. I am not alone after all.

[Biblican]

20 hours ago, Debp said:

My understanding is that the Palestinians (in history) have been offered a two-State solution more than once....but they wouldn't accept it.

Also, currently when I watch videos of Palestinians and Israelis being interviewed, the Israelis want to compromise and want peace.   But the Palestinians said they want all of the land and no peace if it means compromising with the Jews.

One old Palestinian man started to say he would want to compromise...but then he stopped and said to the interviewer "Do you want to get me killed?"

 

The resources I have, quotes from Israeli leaders, is that it is Netanyahu who does not want the two state solution. There is so much bad feeling on both sides. It is a fact that the Jews have been less than kind in their treatment of the Palestinians over the years. But the whole problem stems from the fact that the Palestinians were driven off the land by the Zionists. The Israelis did to them basically what the Americans did to the Indians. Arabs however, don't submit that easily. I believe God wants both sides to live as one people, the Palestinians and real Jews are both Semites, descendants from Abraham. However most of the Jews that were imported from Europe to Israel were converts not Semites. There is so much animosity that the only way they will be able to live as one will only happen under Jesus. So God has to break the pot and reform it. That is what the tribulation and the second coming will accomplish. I never thought God wanted a two state solution because the is a verse about dividing the land. Again, that is because He wants the people to live as one without the division. And it is so sad because they were living as one in peace until the Zionists came along.

[Biblican]

9 hours ago, Edward429451 said:

 

And people still insist on believing the propaganda.

Brothers & Sisters, that deception has always been the primary weapon of the enemy. And in today's world that translates into, you cant believe anything your hear and only half of what you see, if that much. 

 

They have developed a fool proof test to be able to see when certain Politicians and all Democrats are lying or not. How it's done is you look them in the face very closely...are their lips moving? If yes, they're lying, If No, they're not lying. 

You are right. The Jews have been propagandizing from day one. I know for a fact that they were offering $5,000 to popular Youtube influencers to produce positive things about Israel. Cyrus Scofield was commissioned by the Zionists to produce the Scofield Bible. I have one and he promotes the gospel as "The Gentile means of Salvation." In other words, Gentiles are saved by Jesus but the Jews don't have to be. This heresy is promoted today by John Hagee. This negates scripture, John 14:6, Peter's sermon to the Jews in Acts, etc.  The Jews recently produced an AI app to promote them but that didn't work. They couldn't get it to say they were not an apartheid state. They are so influential in influencing the United States government, there is a picture of one of their top old time Rabbis in the house, even though there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. If we are supposed to be based on a Judeo-Christian ethic, then there should be a picture of Jesus there too. I think it was President Bush that signed the bill recognizing the Noahide laws. It sounds good, like the ten commandments, until you get to the fine print which describes the death penalty for idolaters. Jews see Christians as idolators for worshipping Jesus. They also think we are polytheists because of the definition  Christians use for the Trinity. I personally have been called an idolater and a polytheist by a Jew and a Muslims. Everything I am telling you is coming from serious research, as I am a professional writer and I have to research. If you disagree with anything I have said, then do your own research into Zionism, the Noahide laws, etc. before you want to criticize what I have said here.

[Edward429451]

37 minutes ago, Biblican said:

You are right. The Jews have been propagandizing from day one. I know for a fact that they were offering $5,000 to popular Youtube influencers to produce positive things about Israel. Cyrus Scofield was commissioned by the Zionists to produce the Scofield Bible. I have one and he promotes the gospel as "The Gentile means of Salvation." In other words, Gentiles are saved by Jesus but the Jews don't have to be. This heresy is promoted today by John Hagee. This negates scripture, John 14:6, Peter's sermon to the Jews in Acts, etc.  The Jews recently produced an AI app to promote them but that didn't work. They couldn't get it to say they were not an apartheid state. They are so influential in influencing the United States government, there is a picture of one of their top old time Rabbis in the house, even though there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. If we are supposed to be based on a Judeo-Christian ethic, then there should be a picture of Jesus there too. I think it was President Bush that signed the bill recognizing the Noahide laws. It sounds good, like the ten commandments, until you get to the fine print which describes the death penalty for idolaters. Jews see Christians as idolators for worshipping Jesus. They also think we are polytheists because of the definition  Christians use for the Trinity. I personally have been called an idolater and a polytheist by a Jew and a Muslims. Everything I am telling you is coming from serious research, as I am a professional writer and I have to research. If you disagree with anything I have said, then do your own research into Zionism, the Noahide laws, etc. before you want to criticize what I have said here.

 

Interesting. They way you talk here in this post seems a little different somehow? Almost like, you speak of Jews and Israel separately. Like there are Israelis and there are Jews! I can get behind that, lol! I never said there are no bad people in Israel. So there is bad Jews and good Israelis there. Just like good white people and bad white people, Good black people and bad black people, good russians/bad russians. I married a good one, lol. She was slavic but not russian but she could speak russian and german. She was Polish. 

 

The thing is though that both sides of a conflict will lie. The good guys n the conflict lie because of national security and not leaking info to the bad guys, and the bad guys lie to gain sympathy and support in their cause. So dress it commercially and gain support. Showing clips of kids crying is always big with them, oh it's for the children! They all lie. 

 

I didnt know you were a writer, Sister. So perhaps I shouldnt take what you say with so much salt? Nevertheless, if they are going to feed the public lies, then they must feed the same ies to the Journalists & writers first! Keep that in mind. 

[steve morrow]

WHAT  IF  LOVE  DID  RULE  ---  GODS  LOVE

 

2 CORINTHIANS 3:5  not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves but our sufficiency is of  --GOD--

 

PSALM 37:28  for  THE  LORD  loveth judgment and forsaketh not  HIS  saints they are preserved forever but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off 

PSALM 119:155  SALVATION  is far from the wicked for they seek not thy statutes 

PSALM 119:163  I hate and abhor lying but thy law I do love

PSALM 119:165  great peace have they which love thy law and nothing shall offend them 

 

 

JAMES 1:12  blessed is the man that endureth temptation for when he his tried he shall receive the crown of life which  THE  LORD hath promised to them that love  --HIM--

 

PSALM 145:20  THE  LORD  preserveth all them that love  HIM  but all the wicked will  HE  destroy 

PROVERBS 8:17  I love them that love  ME   those that seek  ME  early shall find  ME 

PROVERBS 8:20  I lead in the way of righteousness in the midst of the paths of judgment 

--8:21--  that I may cause those that love  ME  to inherit substance and I will fill their treasures 

 

DEUTERONOMY 7:9  know therefore that  THE  LORD  THY  GOD  the faithful  GOD  which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that  LOVE  HIM  and keep  HIS  commandments to a thousand generations 

NEHEMIAH 1:5  and said I beseech thee  O LORD  GOD  of heaven the great and terrible  GOD  that keepeth covenant and mercy for them that  LOVE  HIM  and observe  HIS  commandments

PSALM 25:10  all the paths of  THE  LORD  are mercy and truth unto such as keep  HIS  covenant and  HIS  testimonies 

DANIEL 9:4  and I prayed unto  THE  LORD  my  GOD  and made my confession and said   O LORD  the great and dreadful  GOD  keeping the covenant and mercy to them that --LOVE  HIM-- and to them that keep  HIS  commandments 

JOHN 14:15  if you love  ME  keep  MY  commandments 

JUDE 1:21  keep yourselves in the love of  GOD  looking for the mercy of our  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  unto eternal life

JOHN 15:10  --IF-- you keep  MY  commandments you shall abide in  MY  love even as I have kept  MY  FATHERS  commandments and abide in  HIS  love 

 

HEBREWS 13:8  JESUS  CHRIST  THE  SAME  YESTERDAY  TODAY  AND  FOR EVER 

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST 

[Biblican]

13 hours ago, steve morrow said:

WHAT  IF  LOVE  DID  RULE  ---  GODS  LOVE

 

2 CORINTHIANS 3:5  not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves but our sufficiency is of  --GOD--

 

PSALM 37:28  for  THE  LORD  loveth judgment and forsaketh not  HIS  saints they are preserved forever but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off 

PSALM 119:155  SALVATION  is far from the wicked for they seek not thy statutes 

PSALM 119:163  I hate and abhor lying but thy law I do love

PSALM 119:165  great peace have they which love thy law and nothing shall offend them 

 

 

JAMES 1:12  blessed is the man that endureth temptation for when he his tried he shall receive the crown of life which  THE  LORD hath promised to them that love  --HIM--

 

PSALM 145:20  THE  LORD  preserveth all them that love  HIM  but all the wicked will  HE  destroy 

PROVERBS 8:17  I love them that love  ME   those that seek  ME  early shall find  ME 

PROVERBS 8:20  I lead in the way of righteousness in the midst of the paths of judgment 

--8:21--  that I may cause those that love  ME  to inherit substance and I will fill their treasures 

 

DEUTERONOMY 7:9  know therefore that  THE  LORD  THY  GOD  the faithful  GOD  which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that  LOVE  HIM  and keep  HIS  commandments to a thousand generations 

NEHEMIAH 1:5  and said I beseech thee  O LORD  GOD  of heaven the great and terrible  GOD  that keepeth covenant and mercy for them that  LOVE  HIM  and observe  HIS  commandments

PSALM 25:10  all the paths of  THE  LORD  are mercy and truth unto such as keep  HIS  covenant and  HIS  testimonies 

DANIEL 9:4  and I prayed unto  THE  LORD  my  GOD  and made my confession and said   O LORD  the great and dreadful  GOD  keeping the covenant and mercy to them that --LOVE  HIM-- and to them that keep  HIS  commandments 

JOHN 14:15  if you love  ME  keep  MY  commandments 

JUDE 1:21  keep yourselves in the love of  GOD  looking for the mercy of our  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  unto eternal life

JOHN 15:10  --IF-- you keep  MY  commandments you shall abide in  MY  love even as I have kept  MY  FATHERS  commandments and abide in  HIS  love 

 

HEBREWS 13:8  JESUS  CHRIST  THE  SAME  YESTERDAY  TODAY  AND  FOR EVER 

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST 

If loved ruled there would be no conflict in the Middle East or anywhere else. I have often wondered if a big hand appeared in the sky and wrote, "Love one another" if it would have any effect on people's behavior.