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5 hours ago, other one said:

Apparently he knows who belongs to which tribe.

God does, Amos 9:9 and when the Christian peoples gather into all of the holy Land, we will be divided int 12 groups, each named after a son of Jacob. Sorted according to our individual characteristics. 

5 hours ago, other one said:

I see that just about everywhere about some things.

And why is that?  Because people have chosen to believe false theories and things like prosperity doctrine.  Their eyes are closed and their ears are stopped. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

1 Peter 2:9-10 is crystal clear about who the Chosen peoples are. 


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2 minutes ago, Keras said:

God does, Amos 9:9 and when the Christian peoples gather into all of the holy Land, we will be divided int 12 groups, each named after a son of Jacob. Sorted according to our individual characteristics. 

And why is that?  Because people have chosen to believe false theories and things like prosperity doctrine.  Their eyes are closed and their ears are stopped. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

1 Peter 2:9-10 is crystal clear about who the Chosen peoples are. 

I think 1 peter 2:9 is clear of the Apostolic church. 


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26 minutes ago, Keras said:

God does, Amos 9:9 and when the Christian peoples gather into all of the holy Land, we will be divided int 12 groups, each named after a son of Jacob. Sorted according to our individual characteristics. 

And why is that?  Because people have chosen to believe false theories and things like prosperity doctrine.  Their eyes are closed and their ears are stopped. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

1 Peter 2:9-10 is crystal clear about who the Chosen peoples are. 

It's because people don't read all the scripture for themselves.


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On 3/30/2025 at 8:12 PM, Keras said:

Where and who are the twelve tribes of Israel today? 

The Bible says they are as countless as the sands of the sea and they remain scattered among the nations.

Jesus says He came to save the lost peoples of Israel. Did He fail? 

I believe you are correct. The " lost tribes" mixed in with the people of the nations in which  many of  whom are being saved. Jesus never fails, His salvation plan is perfect. 


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On 4/1/2025 at 12:39 PM, Keras said:

God does, Amos 9:9 and when the Christian peoples gather into all of the holy Land, we will be divided int 12 groups, each named after a son of Jacob. Sorted according to our individual characteristics. 

You are fabricating this- Amos 9:9 says nothing of which you've credited for!

Where does Scripture state that Christians are sorted into 12 groups??? Characteristics? 

This is laughable, at best! 

Do you just sit around thinking of weird ways to explain Scripture? You're literally making up this stuff.

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Why are you so bent on confusing people? 

I have never encountered someone who is so adamantly opposed to scripture that they have to completely rewrite God's Word!

 

 

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17 hours ago, Keras said:

Jesus was successful in His mission and we Christians are now the true Israelites of God.

Spiritual Israel??  circumcised in the heart  Romans  2:29 ''But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code. That person’s praise comes from God, not from people.''


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4 hours ago, Anne2 said:

I think 1 peter 2:9 is clear of the Apostolic church. 

It is clear of all the faithful Christian peoples. Who now come from every tribe, race, nation and language. 

4 hours ago, other one said:

It's because people don't read all the scripture for themselves.

Right. But also because they accept false teachings.

2 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

Years ago, you had a reasonably acceptable perspective on scripture.

I re-read my intro and the articles on my website logostelos.info , and have changed nothing of what I promoted from 2010.

Acceptable perspective? What I promote from the Prophets, seems to contradict just about everyone's beliefs about the end times. This does not mean I'm wrong, as the Prophets too, were rejected and disbelieved.  Unless someone can show me, by using scripture; where I am wrong, then I will continue refuting unbiblical nonsense like a 'rapture to heaven'. 

Amos 9:9 does say that God knows where the true Israel is. He won't lose any of them. 

2 hours ago, Locust said:

Spiritual Israel??  circumcised in the heart  Romans  2:29 ''But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code. That person’s praise comes from God, not from people.''

Paul refers to every faithful Christian person. 


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7 hours ago, Keras said:

Unless someone can show me, by using scripture; where I am wrong, then I will continue refuting unbiblical nonsense

I've tried, you've rejected scripture.

In fact, you have rejected the biblical meaning of the prophecy in Zechariah 5, and have tried to convince people it was about the present day Iran and a nuclear bomb, and boldly stated that the fulfillment of this prophecy is "imminent."

Instead of a scroll with visible writing of both sides, (meaning it wasn't rolled up), you refer to it as a "cylinder." 

God continued to show the prophet an image of a woman in a basket being taken to Babylonia. You claim this vision to prove the nonsense of a nuclear power, simply because it had a lid that was made of lead.

"Lead" is not a biblical symbol for nuclear power. That is unbiblical nonsense, at its best.

You conveniently rejected the biblical meaning of the entire passage and used a current news headline to define the prophecy, at the rejection of what the Bible says.

Regarding your comment about a rapture to heaven being unbiblical...

I agree with that, and that is what I referred to when I said you used to present acceptable teachings of scripture.

You have corrected me... I was unaware that all your false interpretations have been around for years, also.

Please accept my apology for thinking you used to "have it right." 


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8 hours ago, Keras said:

Right. But also because they accept false teachings.

How are they supposed to know something is false if they don't know and understand all the truth. Christer's (Christmas and Easter church attendees) can pretty much be taught anything that sounds even a bit logical.

Actually, even those who attend church and only get exposed to what other people think is in the Bible seem to be subject to accepting false teaching.   If you don't read the whole thing for yourself, others can take scripture out of context and convince us about almost anything.


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13 minutes ago, other one said:

If you don't read the whole thing for yourself, others can take scripture out of context and convince us about almost anything.

The whole thing can be read out of context

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