Israel's new message to Gazans

[Luther]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

Do you believe what scripture tells us about God giving that Land to Abraham’s progeny?

Yes of course you do. Then we must deal with the Lord’s words here. You can’t ignore them.

“This is what the LORD says, He who gives the sun for light by day And the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night, Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— The LORD of armies is His name:

“If this fixed order departs From Me,” declares the LORD, “Then the descendants of Israel also will cease To be a nation before Me forever.”

This is what the LORD says: “If the heavens above can be measured And the foundations of the earth searched out below, Then I will also reject all the descendants of Israel For everything that they have done,” declares the LORD.”

(Jeremiah 31:35-37 NAS20)

https://accordance.bible/link/read/NAS20S#Jer._31:35

You asked: "    Do you believe what scripture tells us about God giving that Land to Abraham’s progeny? "

No. It's no longer about physical land. It hasn't been for 3,000 years. God's Old Testament promises of an eternal land inheritance is for all believers in Christ. That's what the scriptures teach and they are confirmed with the New Testament.

[Debp]

4 hours ago, Luther said:

I have a general idea about the Hitler youth group. I only heard positive things about it. This is actually the first time I'm hearing something like what you're saying. There were over 6 million members. It sounds like almost every boy and girl was in Hitler youth.

I  saw footage of the massive rallies they had. There had to be over a million in attendance.

I can't believe you said the above.

I know you don't like Wikipedia but others do.    From Wikipedia...

Doctrine
The members of the Hitler Youth were viewed as ensuring the future of Nazi Germany and they were indoctrinated in Nazi ideology, including racism.[38] The boys were indoctrinated with the myths of Aryan racial superiority and to view Jews and Slavs as subhumans.[39][40][41] Members were taught to associate state-identified enemies such as Jews with Germany's previous defeat in the First World War and societal decline.[42] The Hitler Youth were used to break up church youth groups, spy on religious classes and Bible studies,[43] and interfere with church attendance.[44][45] Education and training programs for the Hitler Youth were designed to undermine the values of traditional structures of German society. Their training also aimed to remove social and intellectual distinctions between classes, to be replaced and dominated by the political goals of Hitler's totalitarian dictatorship.[46] Sacrifice for the Nazi cause was instilled into their training. As historian Richard Evans observes, "The songs they sang were Nazi songs. The books they read were Nazi books."[47] Former Hitler Youth Franz Jagemann said that the notion "Germany must live" even if the members of the HJ had to die, was "hammered" into them.[48

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth

 

[Daniel whalen]

In my opinion @Luther is a anti-Semitic and believe's the worse

He claims to be Christian but I wonder if he is a Muslim and hiding behind religion sense he support's Hamas and their radical ideas 

The comment about "I heard good thing's about Hitler youth" did it for me 

They are totally evil and worship Hitler who had paintings of himself as a savior to German's 

The Muslim Brotherhood support him and translate Mein Kampf into Arabic so Arab's could read it sense they are anti-Semitic 

But I will pray for his soul 

[1to3]

 

6 hours ago, Luther said:

I don't understand about your grandfather being taken to a Soviet gulag. Was he Russian? Was it the Soviet army that took him? I know for a fact that hundreds of thousands of Russians and Poles died in those gulags.

My German grandfather was born in East Prussia Germany, for sake of time needed here to explain, one can research the fate of many East Prussian Germans during WWII. Its horrible. The soldiers also burst into homes and took women and children to violently rape and kill.

6 hours ago, Luther said:

You Said: "All parents who refused to sign the papers necessary for the children to join Hitler youth were severely beaten."

The children whose parents refused to sign to allow their children into Hitler youth were severely beaten. My uncle was severely beaten and maimed for life with a bad back injury from the experience.

And NO not all children went to Hitler youth camp,( like some are misleadingly saying) . 

My mother did say that they were forced to say Hail Hitler in school whether they wanted to or not, I guess a bit like Americans schools at one point in time used to have the children recite and pledge allegiance to the flag type thing.

My German Christian grandfather was taken to a Russian concentration camp and experienced what I mentioned.

The Russians came in to East Prussia and many Germans including my moms family had to flee from their homes in the cold brutal January winter and have to travel over the Gdansk river to make it into safety if they could. Many died, fell through the ice, or collapsed just by sheer exhaustion and cold winter conditions trying to escape. Its a very long story to explain here.

There were many concentration camps some Russian some Polish, some in Germany. Auschwitz was located in Poland.

Many average Germans did not know ALL that was going on, and they certainly weren't all NAZIS.

Just like the Covid crisis,those who did not go with the flow and could smell a rat where silenced or they tried to silence many in many ways. Those who tried to speak up against what was going on, were ostracized,eliminated.  Vera  Sharav, a Romanian born Jew. spoke of the similarities of the covid Crisis and what was done in WWII.

Some interviews can still be found of hers on Bit Chute; if interested,

Here is the title of one video interview with Vera Sharav .

Holocaust Survivor Vera Sharav talks "Global Genocide" to Dr Reiner Fuellrich

 

 

Side note:about  Dr, Josef Mengele.  Experiments where not only done on Jews, they also had "hospitals "clinics" were they experimented on the mentally ill, handicapped and other. 

Many people don't now that evil experiments continued after the WWII into America and Canada.Look up Dr Donalds Ewen Cameron who was funded by the United States and conducted horrific experiments in the United States as well in Canada.

[farouk]

8 hours ago, Luther said:

I have a general idea about the Hitler youth group. I only heard positive things about it.

Totally unacceptable.

[farouk]

3 hours ago, Daniel whalen said:

The comment about "I heard good thing's about Hitler youth" did it for me 

 

I know.

[kwikphilly]

17 hours ago, Luther said:

You said: " Anyone denying fact after fact about the Holocaust in an effort to minimize the atrocity is either looking to stir things up or.... "

Now here's the problem I have. The assumption is made that if someone looks further into this event it's for hurtful or negative purposes. There are those out there that simply want to get a better understanding of the facts and figures, and because of that they are targeted or labeled.

" Fact after fact" is exactly what we should be looking at. Do you wish to share some facts?

I know exactly what I said and there is no problem with anyone wanting to look further to gain a better understanding and knowledge.... I'm making no " assumptions" here- post after post after post you have nothing but negative things to say about Jews and here you even minimize the events of the Holocaust or attacks on Israel  , having never even left your own neighborhood ....

Personally,I've not seen you post anything that is not negative or informative....

Just talk to survivors of the Holocaust yourself ,in the USA there are estimated around 80,000 still living who can tell you their personal experience ( mostly they're in their 80s now- even some 100 yrs old)

You say you like research? Look up Weisel,Victor Frankel and Imre Kertesz & Tova Friedman- read their stories or the boy Thomas Geve who survived 3 concentration camps before freed from Buchenwald in 1945

Visit the Museum of Toleratance in Los Angeles - survivors still volunteer to speak ,1st and 2nd gen & have been doing so for 30yrs...very informative

I was very Blessed to have met so many survivors in my younger years-to see up close & personally what resilience looks like....

If you want to look of facts and unbiased information regarding a particular organization would you go to Google & type in" bad reviews for _____organization '

So far that's the only type of research I believe folks such as yourself or anyone with uninformed pre- conceived notions do,I've read nothing that serves any purpose for good

[kwikphilly]

16 hours ago, 1to3 said:

You do well @Luther to be fair minded, considering all facts at hand, and researching these for yourself as manipulators use covert tactics to  Manipulate,Control,Denigrate and Confuse whom they can.

They will also accuse the other of what they themselves are doing.

 

Its very important to do ones own research as the Truth will eventually come out.

Coming from a mother who went through the world warII,  and was born in what was then called East Prussia Germany.  This war as all wars are: horrible and many not only the Jews suffered. My late uncle got beaten up severely, because my christian grandfather refused to let his son join the Hitler youth in the school he was attending . All parents who refused to sign the papers necessary for the children to join Hitler youth were severely beaten. My grandfather to old to be forced back into the army was taken to a Russian concentration camp left to die placing him and a bunch of other men in a shack,  one man staked over the other left to die.

I was born in north America but having in childhood innocently once shared my mom was of German origin , was then classified and accused by ignorance that I was a Nazi.

I'll stop here before someone starts to accuse me of having no understanding or rights to share my personal experiences.

But you do well to question and research for yourself praying always to God the Father, Son, Holy Spirit for His  TRUTH and understanding to come forth in all matters.

If you have something to say to me then simply say it

Replying to Luther's comment to ME by your comment I quoted is what Im referencing- there was no " they" ,I was the only person he addressed

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They will also accuse the other of what they themselves are doing.

That is just a passive aggressive back handed way of posting a personal attack ...  I do my due diligence and research FACTS using credible unbiased resources rather than post biased,anti semitism as Luther has been posting consistently- even to go as far as complimenting Hitler and his youth groups- it wouldnt matter who it was as long as they were anti Jews it seems

 I address whomever I have something to say to,I suggest you do the same

[Dennis1209]

@Luther

The theme, ways, and means of global dominance goes back to Nimrod. The Nazi Party was not a political party; it was undeniably a demonic religious cult. Hitler's oratory skills were mesmerizing and demonically inspired. As another cult, the Pope and RCC aided and abetted Hitler, invoked Replacement Theology, squandered opportunities to save innocent lives, and refused to denounce Jewish genocide. In modern parlance, Hitler and the Vatican were in bed together.

Throughout history, Satan has attempted to erase the Jews and destroy the bloodline of the Messiah. That is true. The sanctions, controls, and hardships placed on Germany after the loss of WW I caused hyperinflation, economic crash, and hyperunemployment. Yet, the Jews thrived through it all and prospered, becoming the objects of German envy and hate. The propaganda became that they were the pure Aryan race and the rightful European heirs.

In troubled economic times, circumstances, hardship, oppression, and subjected times, populations look for a man with a plan to deliver them from oppression and give them hope. This is starting to sound like another demonic entity that will appear in the not-too-distant future.

To my knowledge, one thing is blatantly obvious: no one has officially questioned or investigated. Seemingly overnight, Germany jumped 50 years ahead in technology over the rest of the world. How did that happen? The barbaric pain and torture of experiments on live humans, genetic manipulation, mass hypnosis, scouring the globe for religious relics to give them the edge, etc.

Again, depending on one's research and sources, Wernher von Braun stated more than once when a journalist asked how Germany's technology suddenly advanced 50 years. The reported response was, "We had help." To my knowledge, this response was never clarified, but it was assumed to be UFOs (demonic).

Germany's advancements were so far ahead that the allied governments (the US, Britain, and Russia) gobbled up hundreds of their scientists. Illegally covered up their war crimes, giving them jobs in their respective governments (Operation Paperclip in the US). Appointing a Nazi war criminal (von Braun) to lead the NASA space program. To coin a phrase, "Something still smells fishy in Denmark."

[Daniel whalen]

9 hours ago, 1to3 said:

 

My German grandfather was born in East Prussia Germany, for sake of time needed here to explain, one can research the fate of many East Prussian Germans during WWII. Its horrible. The soldiers also burst into homes and took women and children to violently rape and kill.

The children whose parents refused to sign to allow their children into Hitler youth were severely beaten. My uncle was severely beaten and maimed for life with a bad back injury from the experience.

And NO not all children went to Hitler youth camp,( like some are misleadingly saying) . 

My mother did say that they were forced to say Hail Hitler in school whether they wanted to or not, I guess a bit like Americans schools at one point in time used to have the children recite and pledge allegiance to the flag type thing.

My German Christian grandfather was taken to a Russian concentration camp and experienced what I mentioned.

The Russians came in to East Prussia and many Germans including my moms family had to flee from their homes in the cold brutal January winter and have to travel over the Gdansk river to make it into safety if they could. Many died, fell through the ice, or collapsed just by sheer exhaustion and cold winter conditions trying to escape. Its a very long story to explain here.

There were many concentration camps some Russian some Polish, some in Germany. Auschwitz was located in Poland.

Many average Germans did not know ALL that was going on, and they certainly weren't all NAZIS.

Just like the Covid crisis,those who did not go with the flow and could smell a rat where silenced or they tried to silence many in many ways. Those who tried to speak up against what was going on, were ostracized,eliminated.  Vera  Sharav, a Romanian born Jew. spoke of the similarities of the covid Crisis and what was done in WWII.

Some interviews can still be found of hers on Bit Chute; if interested,

Here is the title of one video interview with Vera Sharav .

Holocaust Survivor Vera Sharav talks "Global Genocide" to Dr Reiner Fuellrich

 

 

Side note:about  Dr, Josef Mengele.  Experiments where not only done on Jews, they also had "hospitals "clinics" were they experimented on the mentally ill, handicapped and other. 

Many people don't now that evil experiments continued after the WWII into America and Canada.Look up Dr Donalds Ewen Cameron who was funded by the United States and conducted horrific experiments in the United States as well in Canada.

I am truly sorry the hell your family when through but you are in a position to witness for it since you heard stories about it from people that lived it first hand unlike some journalist report third hand