Original Sin

[Orion]

Is the doctrine of original sin as taught by Roman Catholicism a false teaching? 

[Orion]

If the doctrine of original sin is true, there must also be a doctrine of the age of accountability, since newborns are completely innocent, except for the sin they inherited.  If so, at what age are we accountable? Is it the same age for all, or is there a "scale" from which one can confidently say that a person has reached that age?

[other one]

1 hour ago, Orion said:

If the doctrine of original sin is true, there must also be a doctrine of the age of accountability, since newborns are completely innocent, except for the sin they inherited.  If so, at what age are we accountable? Is it the same age for all, or is there a "scale" from which one can confidently say that a person has reached that age?

I would have to say that children develop at such different rates that it's not possible to set an age.  Some people with serious brain problems never really achieve that. 

[other one]

2 hours ago, Orion said:

Is the doctrine of original sin as taught by Roman Catholicism a false teaching? 

You should define what that is to keep down any. Confusion. 

[Orion]

3 hours ago, other one said:

You should define what that is to keep down any. Confusion. 

I suppose it's not strictly a Roman Catholic teaching, since some protestant denominations also teach it.  But others claim it is not a sound biblical doctrine. 

In any event, the doctrine of original sin teaches that all of humanity inherit a sin nature as a result of Adam's fall in the garden. As Romans 5:12 states, "as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

The question that always comes up in regard to this doctrine is about the death of infants or those who've been aborted or, as in ancient times, sacrificed, and their accountability to their sin nature from inheritING Adam's sin. 

What would be the best scriptural argument that infants who die and the aborted are not held accountable for their sin nature? 

 

[Who me]

6 hours ago, Orion said:

What would be the best scriptural argument that infants who die and the aborted are not held accountable for their sin nature?

The best argument is Abrahams argument when talking about Sodom, " Shall not the God of the whole earth do that which is right."

The only passage that implies that young children go straight to heaven is David's reaction to the death of Bathsheba's son, when he said " I will go to him."

That said its better to concentrate  on God's justice.

[enoob57]

Also the fact in Jonah
Jonah 4:11 (KJV)

[11] And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

 

[other one]

13 hours ago, Orion said:

I suppose it's not strictly a Roman Catholic teaching, since some protestant denominations also teach it.  But others claim it is not a sound biblical doctrine. 

In any event, the doctrine of original sin teaches that all of humanity inherit a sin nature as a result of Adam's fall in the garden. As Romans 5:12 states, "as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

The question that always comes up in regard to this doctrine is about the death of infants or those who've been aborted or, as in ancient times, sacrificed, and their accountability to their sin nature from inheritING Adam's sin. 

What would be the best scriptural argument that infants who die and the aborted are not held accountable for their sin nature? 

 

Interesting thing to me is they ate of the fruit, before they had received the effects of eating the fruit. They ran around naked before they ate of the fruit. I guess what I'm saying is they had the sin nature before eating of the fruit but didn't realize it. We did become responsible for sin at the so called fall, but we also were put in a position to do something about it. When that failed Jesus came and made a fix for us.

 

They did have the enlightment that they were sinners for they realized they were naked.

[Orion]

4 hours ago, other one said:

I guess what I'm saying is they had the sin nature before eating of the fruit but didn't realize it.

If man had a sin nature before he sinned, how would you reconcile that with Genesis 1:26-27, which tells us that God created man and woman in God's own image and after God's own likeness? 

[other one]

54 minutes ago, Orion said:

If man had a sin nature before he sinned, how would you reconcile that with Genesis 1:26-27, which tells us that God created man and woman in God's own image and after God's own likeness? 

Because like God, we were created with free will. Don't think God isn't capable of sinning(so to speak) just because he doesn't.