WHO IS CHRIST?

[Frits]

The Lord Jesus is Christ. 

He is the personification of Christ. We all know that Christ means Anointed, translated from Hebrew Messiah.

What applies to Christ also applies to the Lord Jesus, He is one Divine Person.

The Lord Jesus Christ was born of the Holy Spirit, His Spirit is Holy.

His Body is also Holy, even so Holy that it could serve God as a spotless Sacrifice for the sins of the world.

And finally, His Name is also Holy: Jesus Christ, the true Holy God.

Christ is God Himself, that is what you and I read in our Bible:

 

Luke 2:11 KJV 

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

 

Also read these Bible texts:

Mat 16:16, Luk.2:11, Joh. 6:69, John 11:27, Ac. 2:36, 1 Cor. 1:2, Col. 3:24

[other one]

Jesus: The Visible God of the Old Testament and the Conduit of the Father

The Bible presents a fascinating distinction between the Father and the divine figure who interacted with humanity in the Old Testament. Consider Exodus 24:9-11, where Moses, Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, and seventy elders of Israel ascend and see the God of Israel: "Under His feet was something like a pavement of sapphire stone, clear as the sky itself. And He did not lay His hand on the nobles of Israel; they saw God, and they ate and drank" (KJV, adapted). This is a remarkable encounter—direct, tangible, and unharmed.

Yet, Jesus complicates this picture in John 6:44-46: "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him... Not that any man has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father" (KJV, adapted). If no one has seen the Father except Jesus, who did Moses and the elders see? This suggests the "God of Israel" they encountered wasn’t the Father but another divine figure—one I believe to be Jesus Himself in His pre-incarnate form.

The Word from the Beginning

John 1:1-10 lays the foundation: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made" (KJV, adapted). This Word, who "became flesh" (John 1:14), is Jesus—existing with the Father from eternity, co-creator of all things, and the light shining into the darkness. The Old Testament saints didn’t know the Father directly; they interfaced with the Word, Jesus, who revealed God to them in a form they could grasp.

Jesus affirms this in John 8:56-58, responding to the Jews: "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day; he saw it and was glad... Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM" (KJV, adapted). Here, Jesus claims the divine name "I AM" (Exodus 3:14), linking Himself to the God who appeared to Abraham and others. The Israelites saw and knew God through Him—not the Father in His unapproachable essence, but the Word who mediated divine presence.

The Humble Servant of the Father

Philippians 2:5-11 deepens this: "Christ Jesus, being in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness" (KJV, adapted). As the Word, Jesus was deity—yet He didn’t cling to equality with the Father. Instead, He humbled Himself, first as the divine agent in the Old Testament, then as a man, always serving the Father’s will. The Father worked through Him to manifest Himself to humanity, whether as the God of Israel or the crucified Savior.

In John 14:10-11, Jesus explains this unity: "The words I speak to you I do not speak on My own; the Father who dwells in Me does the works" (KJV, adapted). Even in flesh, Jesus remains the conduit of the Father’s power and purpose—a role unchanged from eternity.

Extending the Conduit to Us

This relationship extends beyond Jesus to us. In John 17:20-23, He prays: "I pray... for those who will believe in Me... that they may all be one, just as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You, that they also may be in Us" (KJV, adapted). Through His sacrifice and intercession, Jesus sends the Holy Spirit, connecting us to the Father. As 1 Corinthians 15:24-28 reveals, Jesus reigns until all enemies are subdued, then hands the kingdom to the Father, remaining subject to Him (KJV, adapted). He’s not eternally co-equal in authority but the faithful Son fulfilling the Father’s plan.

One God, Three Persons, One Purpose

1 Corinthians 8:4-6 ties it together: "There is no God but one... For us, there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist" (KJV, adapted). The Father is the source, Jesus the means, and the Holy Spirit the presence indwelling us. You can’t have one without the others—they are distinct yet inseparable, united in thought, purpose, and action.

Redefining "God"

Our confusion stems from the word "god." In Hebrew and Greek, it denotes anything worshipped or wielding control—pagan deities, nature, money, even ourselves. The original texts lack capitalization distinctions; translators capitalize "God" for the Trinity. But for us, "God" is the Father, Son, and Spirit—three entities so intertwined they are one. It’s not a mystery or miracle; it’s a misunderstanding of a word. They operate as one because their will is one, and through Jesus’ work, we’re invited into that unity.

 

[Vine Abider]

And He is the prototype for all mankind in the new creation - bringing many sons into glory!

[Your closest friendnt]

6 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

And He is the prototype for all mankind in the new creation - bringing many sons into glory!

I can't connect to that. Can you please explain it. Prototype, what am I supposed to think. 

[Vine Abider]

1 minute ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I can't connect to that. Can you please explain it. Prototype, what am I supposed to think. 

The Firstborn - meaning many more after His kind

[Frits]

10 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I can't connect to that. Can you please explain it. Prototype, what am I supposed to think. 

Eph.4:13

[Vine Abider]

5 minutes ago, Frits said:

Eph.4:13

Excellent! 

so that the body of Christ may be built up ¹³ until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:

The Firstborn - meaning many more after His kind

I am not going to say anything against it.

Is it possible to describe the first born. 

And please it will very helpful to post the scripture together with the reference to it. It is important to know what you are reading in the reference scripture because they are many different translations. 

[Vine Abider]

1 minute ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I am not going to say anything against it.

Is it possible to describe the first born. 

And please it will very helpful to post the scripture together with the reference to it. It is important to know what you are reading in the reference scripture because they are many different translations. 

"Unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground to die, it abides alone; but if it dies it brings forth many grains." (John 12:24) Christ's intention in coming was to multiply Himself.  To do this He first had to take care of the sin problem in us, through His death on the cross, and secondly, in resurrection He put Himself (life-giving Spirit) into the members of His body (those who believe).  This was to give us His life and transform us fully into the image of the Firstborn Son, Who is in the image of God.

Does the thought that Christ came to restore us in the Father's family and multiply Himself in us sound strange to you?

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Frits said:

Eph.4:13

Greetings to you. But I am not sure what your translation reads and I want to know. 

Can you please post it.