Don't study the Bible! Unless....

[Your closest friendnt]

@FreeGrace

My post is like that 

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The Bereans do not speak like that without considering the context. There is the context of the choice verse and there is the context of everything else in the authors letters. 

And it should be like that when someone quotes the post. 

Why it is not like that in your post.

What have you done? 

Please delete this and quote the post in the same way as everyone else. Just touch the "quote" on the bottom left. 

[LastDaysJames]

2 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

I see it differently.  Getting saved is when the person believes the gospel promise and the Holy Spirit takes up residence in the new believer.  Being filled is when the believer has submitted to the Holy Spirit through asking to be filled.

Of course you are right, I was using a parable style example based on what Jesus said to the woman at the well, "whoever drinks of the Water I give shall never thirst"

[FreeGrace]

20 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@FreeGrace

My post is like that 

Your closest friendnt said:

The Bereans do not speak like that without considering the context. There is the context of the choice verse and there is the context of everything else in the authors letters. 

And it should be like that when someone quotes the post. 

Why it is not like that in your post.

What have you done? 

Please delete this and quote the post in the same way as everyone else. Just touch the "quote" on the bottom left. 

My post is fine.  Did you expand the first quote box?  I include what I had posted so what the other poster says has context.  And what is in red above is IN my post.  You just can't see it unless you expand the quote box.  It's all there.

I didn't miss anything.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

My post is fine.  Did you expand the first quote box?  I include what I had posted so what the other poster says has context.  And what is in red above is IN my post.  You just can't see it unless you expand the quote box.  It's all there.

I didn't miss anything.

This time it's just my post. But why red. I did not have red ink.

[Sower]

On 5/9/2025 at 10:19 AM, LastDaysJames said:

2) Be filled (baptized) in the Holy Spirit (yes, that is a separate experience from salvation. Acts 19:2)

Could you elaborate this. I often hear posters say that unless I have been baptized in the spirit my spiritual life will be limited. If you agree with that, just how is it limited?

I have no problem with asking God to reveal to me some new understanding of scripture if it glorifies God and enables me to get closer to my savior. Does being baptized do this, and if so, how. How, as in just what happens, if you could explain, and provide scripture.

Thanks James...,  Sower

[LastDaysJames]

According to the bible the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is also called the Baptism with fire and power. The gifts of the Holy Spirit comes in fullness with the infilling of the Holy Spirit starting with speaking in tongues.

Jesus Himself did not do one miracle until the Holy Spirit ascended down upon Him and baptizing Him.

There is a reason the disciples were told to wait for the promise, that they received in the upper room, that promise was the Holy Spirit; and He brought with Him... power!

In Luke 11:13, Jesus said that all you need to do is ask for the infilling of the Holy Spirit, ask in faith - and He will baptize you.

When Jesus sent His disciples out, He first breathed on them (the Greek for spirit means breath, or air) Jesus gave then a portion of the Holy Spirit... just a taste, then they had the power to heal the sick, cast out demons....

[LastDaysJames]

I would like to add, the Holy Spirit also gives boldness. It turn Jesus-denying Peter into a bold powerhouse that stud up in front of many and preached the Gospel.

[FreeGrace]

11 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

This time it's just my post. But why red. I did not have red ink.

I use red on what I said that the poster was replying to.  When I quote verses, I will highlight in red the key words in the verse.

[Your closest friendnt]

2 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

I use red on what I said that the poster was replying to.  When I quote verses, I will highlight in red the key words in the verse.

We should continue with the issues at hand. Just make it simple and just quote the post as every other poster does. Make it simple please. 

I want to go back and respond to the issues at hand.. 

[AnOrangeCat]

22 hours ago, angels4u said:

The Bible will teach you how to get saved if you are an unbeliever and mature you in the faith after you become a believer .

So you should really read and study if you're not born again yet,seek and you shall find.

I agree with this, and I can't see any reason for anyone to not study the Bible. I can't recall a single verse in the vein of "Thou shalt not dig into God's Word unless X, Y, and Z..." so it feels very much like a manmade statement to me. The Holy Spirit can convict us in a variety of ways, which can include study.

 

22 hours ago, angels4u said:

We keep learning and understandng until the die we meet our Savior( if we're born again..

Amen. I've found it to be the case in my own walk. Read the same chapter a different day and different things stick out, and through the process of discussion of scripture we can learn more. I'd argue that scriptural discussions can be a form of study as well.