Baptists not Protestant?

[Pax]

John,

Once again I would agree with most of your post. You are very much correct that Jesus Christ was only sacrificied once as stated in scripture. During a Catholic Mass the sacrifice of Calvary is re-presented, not in a bloody, physical way, but in an unbloody, Sacramental way. Christ's blood was only shed once, but it is continually offered to the Father. When a priest offers the sacrifice of the mass, he is not offereing a sacrifice distinct from that on Calvary. Christ is not dying all over again. What is on the altar is the very same sacrifice as on Calvery, but it is made present to us today in a special, Sacramental way. This is a presence distinct from a physical, historical presence and distinct from a merely symbolic presence. It is a third kind of presence. In it Christ is really present on the altar, and at the consecration a real offering of Christ to the Father is made. Although Christ died only once, through the Mass his saving act is made actually present day by day, until the end of the world.

You say that the sacrafice on Calvery is re-presented during the mass, since it is representative of what occurred on Calvery, and because that sacrifice required blood and was the only acceptable sacrafice, than what occurs during the mass can only represent the sacrifice on Calvery and that would make it a memorial, as Jesus instructed his disciples and also those who would follow, to do this in rememberance of me. The braking of the bread signifies the price that he paid, the picture of the breaking of the bread is symbolic of his body being broken and the wine is symbolic of his blood which he shed to cleanses us from all our sins, and this fulfills the old covenant and completes it, allowing for a new covenant to be installed in its place, and in this new covenant Jesus is the high Priest, and it is Jesus who makes intercession for us, He presents the offering for sin. But this is not dictated by some ritual or ceremony performed by a Priest, but only by our High Priest. Because He ever makes intercession for us, sitting on the right hand of God. And this is accomplished for those who are called to be his heirs, although God sheds his mercy upon all mankind, but those who accept his gift and receive him as Savior are sealed and receive the Holy Spirit. When you become a believer you become a new creature, you are regenerated, does this mean that you become perfect in the flesh? The answer is no, because we are told to ask for forgiveness, as can be found in 1John 1:9, he washes all of our sins away, and although we are instructed to ask for forgiveness when we sin, this is to preserve our fellowship, and to avoid chastisment of which there are many forms, but there are consequences to sin, if you were a heavy drinker before you were saved you can develop liver problems, or if you smoke you could develop lung cancer, just because you are forgiven eternally does not mean you won

[John3;16]

John,

You left out the most important part which makes up the basis for the Sacrament of the Eucharist within the Catholic Church. Please refer to John 6: 22-71.

Jesus states four times that if you eat His Flesh and Drink His Blood you will have eternal life. Many in the crowd couldn't understand what he was saying by eating his flesh and drinking his blood. They then walked away. Jesus didn't say. "Hey, Hey stop I was just kidding, I didn't really mean what I was saying." No he turns to his tweleve disciples and asked them if they to are going to walk away. Peter answers, Where would we go, you have the words of eternal life.

At the last supper, Jesus shows the disciples how they will be able to consume him flesh and drink his blood after he is gone. This will also happen in the future and still is to this day. It is called the Catholic Mass. During the Last Supper Jesus tells his Disciples how this will be done. Mathew 26: 27-29 discribes this. These words are still used today when the Catholic Priest consecrates the host. Turning bread and wine into flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. This has taken place for the last 2,000 years and truely is a tremendous amount of grace given to us by Christ. I would encourage you to spend some time reading John 6 in the Bible. It is very clear.

Jesus performed the miracle of multiplying the loafs of bread and the people sought to take hold of him and make him King, Jesus then departed from them and crossed over the sea, then the people who seen the miracles that Jesus performed sought him and crossed over the sea, they then found Jesus the next day, and questioned him about his arrival to the other side, which in reality they were questioning why He left them, then in verse 6:26 Jesus answered them and said " Truly, truly I say to you, you did not seek me because of the miracles that you witnessed, but because I provided food for you, then in verse 6:27 Jesus reveals the moral of the story, Labor not for physical bread, but seek everlasting provisions, Jesus often used parables and stories to teach the people, and the people responded to his teaching in verse 6:28 and asked Him: what shall we do that we might do that, which is required of God? And Jesus answered them (verse 6:29) this is what is required: that you believe on Him (Jesus) who God has sent. This is the bread of life, this is how you are doing the work of God, believe on him who God has sent.

John|6:22 The day following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was none other boat there, save that one whereinto his disciples were entered, and that Jesus went not with his disciples into the boat, but