Bush did NOT lie

[other one]

The Lord sent me here to pray for three spicific people who seem to be doing fine now....... the rest is just a hobby

[Giaour]

I told you it doesn't matter how much proof and how many facts you provide, some will just refuse to believe it no matter what.

[Marnie]

I think I've just about fulfulled what I was sent here to do in the first place. Enjoy the short time we have as a nation, and I'll see you all on the other side.

Sam

Hmmmm.....

[darkest_red]

There was too much evidence for me to accept the notion that British, U.S. and even the intelligence agencies from nations that opposed the war, as well as the U.N. were wrong in thinking WMDs existed.

From my point of view, I still don't think Britain should have gone to war. Blair told Britain we would not go to war unless we had the backing of the UN. They didn't give their backing (as I recall. I think it was the UN, but correct me if I'm wrong.). We still went to war anyway, with, I think, something like 98% of the population against it. That is no way to treat the people you are supposed to be listening too.

[darkest_red]

I know that the majority of the people in the U.K. were opposed to the war in Iraq, but it was nowhere near 98 percent. Regardless, Tony Blair did what he thought was in the best interest of the world and the nation he represents. If there was truly so much outrage about his decision, why did the people re-elect him? They certainly had the opportunity to show him how they felt at the ballot box.

The way I look at it, to heck with the U.N. I am opposed to any form of world body that tries to usurp the authority of sovereign nations. If it were up to me, we would pull out of the U.N. today. I supported the war in Iraq at the time, and still think it was the right decision.

What some are calling the war in Iraq today is really not a war. That ended with the overthrow of Sadaam. What is taking place today is re-building of a nation, and protecting the people from terrorists till they are strong enough to stand on their own two feet. Those demanding a pull out today are really saying we don't care about the citizens of Iraq, let them sink or swim. I believe that would be the wrong thing to do. We need to make sure they are strong enough to withstand the future uprisings they are nearly certain to face before we leave.

As I pointed out, Tony Blair was re-elected even though he supposedly faced great opposition. Here in America, Bush was also re-elected over a passivist by the name of John Kerry. While the majority in both nations may have opposed the war, it is obvious that their opposition couldn't have been all that strong, at least not in large numbers or both Bush and Blair would have been defeated.

The actual percentage fluturated, but it was always in the high 90s (Sorry, 98 was acutally a typo. I'm tired and my brain is shutting down!)

The ONLY reason Blair got re-elected was because of the lack of voting. The world is very apathetic. Blair got in by a very small minority, and since then things have been going rapidly down hill for him. As I said, the world is apathetic and this country is no exception. So few people vote these days.

Whether the war was right or not, he should not have gone to war after specifically saying he wouldn't without the backing of the UN and with so much of the country he is supposed to represent against the war.

And as for your comment about Blair "supposedly" facing great opposition, how exactly was it "supposedly"??

[Giaour]

I want Tony Blair to run for our presidency.

Think he would consider defecting?

[darkest_red]

I want Tony Blair to run for our presidency.

Think he would consider defecting?

Well...he wants to be President of something so I'm sure he'd love too!

You're welcome to him!

[darkest_red]

When I said supposedly facing great opposition, I meant as opposed to soft opposition. That is, if the people were really fired up against him, they would have showed up at the polls if they had to be carried in on a stretcher. The fact they didn't care enough to vote him out of office shows that they may have been opposed enough to tell a polster they were against the war, but it wasn't enough of an issue to cause them to throw the bum out so to speak.

Whereas I do see your point up to a certain point, I do think apathy is running so deep in this country now that very little would make people actually vote, however strongly they feel about something. My family believe very much in voting and I really can't see how anyone can happily stay at home and not bother with it. However, there are so many people who now just don't care about politics and see that there is no point voting because whichever party they vote for, everything they said they would do would be a lie anyway!

We desperately need a shake up of politics.

[Guest LadyC]

if people are too apathetic to bother voting, then they do not have a RIGHT to voice their opposition. that's beyond apathethic, it's pure pathetic.

and we DID have the support of the UN... at least the majority of the UN. we just didn't have the support of they hypocritical nations that have the biggest chunk of the UN pie. ironically, many of those opposing nations were getting kickbacks from the oil for food or other un scandals and were just trying to cover their own tails.

[darkest_red]

if people are too apathetic to bother voting, then they do not have a RIGHT to voice their opposition. that's beyond apathethic, it's pure pathetic.

I agree, not bothering to vote is pathetic. There are so many people all over the world who would LOVE the opportunity to vote, yet so many people here would rather watch TV or have a beer etc. That's this country for you though. Personally, I hate it. When I was younger I loved my country, now it disgusts me.