mixing meat with dairy...and kosher food

[hupo]

And do you clean your whole house everywhere before the passover week? And do you have to clean every object in the house ? That could take a long time!!!

that is where the tradition of "Spring cleaning" comes from.

Angels, in many Jewish homes EVERYTHING is cleaned. I know a family that started cleaning over three weeks before Passover. They first went through all the rooms they didnt' use as much and then after they were scoured and cleaned, the room was off limits until after Pesach.

I mean, they cleaned every corner, and shampooed their carpets. They actually lost weight during Passover preparation with all the furniture they would have move around and clean under (they had large two story house.)

They also have, as many Jewish homes do, a set of dishes only for Passover and can only be used during the week of unleavend bread. They have three sets of cooking utensils: One set for dairy, one set for meat and one set for Passover. Did I mention they have a HUGE kitchen? Their house was built to accomodate all of this (except the rigors of Pesach cleaning )

They clean every corner and nook. They open their books and shake them out in case they had been eating bread while reading and crumbs were still trapped in them. It was an amazing thing. I mean that house was CLEAN come Passover!!! I, a very anal, picky neat freak, and these people make me look like a slob.

It is a huge job. Passover is the most expsensive Jewish holiday, and it is the most laborious to prepare for if you do it right.

In addition to all this the serious people go as far as looking around the house with a candle, and scrape places out with a feather!!

If it isn't hard enough, this spring cleaning comes at a time when there are lots of sand storms and you can imagine what goes on during that period!!

It was the same this year. I couldn't drive the car without wiping all that dust off the windscreen and today, after the passover is over, it poured and cleaned everything. Late, but did a good job.

(Late edition) By the way. Beer is also concedered Hametz as it's made of wheat or one of those "forbidden"s

Edited April 11, 2007 by hupo

[hupo]

Vickilynn,

If the Lord sets you free you are free indeed, why do you think God wants you to keep that law ,do you never eat pizza?

Shalom Angels.

Oh, the L-rd HAS set me free! Set me free from sin and death and much more! But not from His Torah!

Jesus says if I love Him, I will keep His commandments. And I love Him.

Jesus says He did not come to abolish the Law, and I believe Him! He set me free from the penalty of the Law.

BTW, Jesus never ate pork.

And yes, I do eat pizza. In fact, I make it at home, often. But, I don't eat pepperoni or any type of pork on it. Why? Because G-d says not to. I would rather obey Him than eat something not given for food.

My dear, it sounds to me like you're living under a lot of condemnation and the heavy yokes of rules and regulations. You are not defiled by what you eat, but what comes out of your mouth. Where does it say that Jesus never ate pork? Jesus came to set us free from the chains of the law and we are under His grace when born again. Eating pork and meat will definately NOT cause a wedge between you and God - so go ahead and enjoy food the way it was intended.

Matthew 15:10-11: "Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, Listen and understand. What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean'."

Verse 17 - 18: "Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean'."

Jesus was referring to the Jewish regulations concerning food and drink. It is what you say and think that makes you unclean - not by eating nonkosher food. Nothing should be a barrier to proclaiming the gospel of Christ.

Whom the Son sets free, is free indeed.

Shalom!

The fact that Yeshua came to set us free from the chains of the law doesn't mean we can now stop honoring our parents. That we can now kill, hate our neighbors, steal or stop keeping the Shabbat.

Am I under condemnation or heavy yolk because I don't kill people ?!

I would say that it depends very much where I am coming from when I follow these laws which to my mind means.... If Vickilynn is observing these laws because God said so, that is precisly the place God and Yeshua want us to be. Not a prisoner of the law but free to abide by it, by our free choice and our submition to God's will.

Blessings

[Guest shiloh357]

Anyone, Jewish or Gentile is free to observe or not observe the dietary commandments. We can run into some serious problems when we start imposing these things on fellow believers. Those who don't observe these rules should respect the convictions of those who do, and vice-versa.

[hupo]

Anyone, Jewish or Gentile is free to observe or not observe the dietary commandments. We can run into some serious problems when we start imposing these things on fellow believers. Those who don't observe these rules should respect the convictions of those who do, and vice-versa.

Amen to that

[Vickilynn]

Shalom Brother Hupo!!!

It is so good to see you here! How are things in upper Galilee??? I miss the land so much!

[angels4u]

Anyone, Jewish or Gentile is free to observe or not observe the dietary commandments. We can run into some serious problems when we start imposing these things on fellow believers. Those who don't observe these rules should respect the convictions of those who do, and vice-versa.

Amen to that

I agree an believe me I'm not out to judge anybody!!

You know I believe that God actually deals with each one of us in a different way and convict us of different things in our lives , I read a really interested pamplet ones where it says that God allows somethings for some people and not for other people in their lives, if we live close to God He let us know........

[angels4u]

In addition to all this the serious people go as far as looking around the house with a candle, and scrape places out with a feather!!

If it isn't hard enough, this spring cleaning comes at a time when there are lots of sand storms and you can imagine what goes on during that period!!

It was the same this year. I couldn't drive the car without wiping all that dust off the windscreen and today, after the passover is over, it poured and cleaned everything. Late, but did a good job.

(Late edition) By the way. Beer is also concedered Hametz as it's made of wheat or one of those "forbidden"s

This post has been edited by hupo: Today, 03:41 AM

lol its here the other way around in the weekend we couldn't drive of the snowstorm we had, this sort of came out of the blue, and that in April!!

The sun is shining now but its still cool outside , I can imagine what a sandstorm would look like, it can be bad here walking on the beach during a sand storm it hurt your face terrible!! Actually you can't be on the beach those days .

[angels4u]

Challah bread is a egg based bread that is braided and eaten on the Sabbath. Most Jewish people make at least two loaves for the Sabbath. It is traditionally eaten with the Friday night meal and represents the double portion of manna that fell on the day before the Sabbath. We often use a decorative Challah cover as well which represents the dew that preserved the manna until it could be picked from the ground.

I will look for this recipe and and try to make it in my breadmachine, I love the meaning behind this tradition and as a born again believer that can apply the manna to Jesus who came to save us.

Thanks:)

[Vickilynn]

Shalom Angels,

A really great site is a Christian one that is wonderful!:

http://www.biblicalholidays.com

It will help you in your studies in this area. They also have great recipes and even lessons for kids.

[angels4u]

Shalom Angels,

A really great site is a Christian one that is wonderful!:

http://www.biblicalholidays.com

It will help you in your studies in this area. They also have great recipes and even lessons for kids.

Thank you ,did you ever go to this site?http://www.kkcj.org/series/israels-olive-tree