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[George]

1 Corithians 6:9-11 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Just so there's no misunderstanding -- this is the NIV translation --

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

[George]

Perhaps a reading into a Christian perspective of Homosexuality might clear the picture.

Baker's Evangelical Dictionary - Homosexuality

[deafcanada]

Perhaps a reading into a Christian perspective of Homosexuality might clear the picture.

Baker's Evangelical Dictionary - Homosexuality

Look at the bible verse in Leviticus 18: 22 said Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin. meaning that God forbids anyone do this and they cannot enter Kingdom of God at all. that s why God cant stand any of kind of sin like that unless you decide to repent and confess your sins and no more doing this. then you can inherit into God's kingdom. as I am standing what the Bible says I won't bend any of those truth because God speaks the truth.

it is really sad for some christians people thinks that it is ok to being homosexuality. some people say need to respect their wishes to be doing this. like Human rights. It is really hard for me to understand why they are allowed do that and think it is alright.

I am sorry i say that because I just follow what the Bible says and God said obey his laws meaning all of His Words in the bible. also the bible say in Leviticus 18: 30 so be careful to obey my laws, and do not practice any of these detestable activities. Do not defile yourselves by doing any of them, for I, the Lord, am your God. meaning that He wants us to follow His ways not world way. and also He is asking us to keep ourselves holy and doing right thing for Him to give Him glorify.

Thanks

Deafcanada

[Bob Dole]

Perhaps a reading into a Christian perspective of Homosexuality might clear the picture.

Baker's Evangelical Dictionary - Homosexuality

Look at the bible verse in Leviticus 18: 22 said Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin. meaning that God forbids anyone do this and they cannot enter Kingdom of God at all. that s why God cant stand any of kind of sin like that unless you decide to repent and confess your sins and no more doing this. then you can inherit into God's kingdom. as I am standing what the Bible says I won't bend any of those truth because God speaks the truth.

it is really sad for some christians people thinks that it is ok to being homosexuality. some people say need to respect their wishes to be doing this. like Human rights. It is really hard for me to understand why they are allowed do that and think it is alright.

I am sorry i say that because I just follow what the Bible says and God said obey his laws meaning all of His Words in the bible. also the bible say in Leviticus 18: 30 so be careful to obey my laws, and do not practice any of these detestable activities. Do not defile yourselves by doing any of them, for I, the Lord, am your God. meaning that He wants us to follow His ways not world way. and also He is asking us to keep ourselves holy and doing right thing for Him to give Him glorify.

Thanks

Deafcanada

Leviticus 18: 22 - "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

It's saying a man shouldn't have sex with another man. That's a homosexual act, but you can be a homosexual without having sex. I've argued this so many times but people seem to ignore it. The bible doesn't mention being a homosexual is a sin it just says having homosexual sex is a sin.

[apothanein kerdos]

Perhaps a reading into a Christian perspective of Homosexuality might clear the picture.

Baker's Evangelical Dictionary - Homosexuality

Look at the bible verse in Leviticus 18: 22 said Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin. meaning that God forbids anyone do this and they cannot enter Kingdom of God at all. that s why God cant stand any of kind of sin like that unless you decide to repent and confess your sins and no more doing this. then you can inherit into God's kingdom. as I am standing what the Bible says I won't bend any of those truth because God speaks the truth.

it is really sad for some christians people thinks that it is ok to being homosexuality. some people say need to respect their wishes to be doing this. like Human rights. It is really hard for me to understand why they are allowed do that and think it is alright.

I am sorry i say that because I just follow what the Bible says and God said obey his laws meaning all of His Words in the bible. also the bible say in Leviticus 18: 30 so be careful to obey my laws, and do not practice any of these detestable activities. Do not defile yourselves by doing any of them, for I, the Lord, am your God. meaning that He wants us to follow His ways not world way. and also He is asking us to keep ourselves holy and doing right thing for Him to give Him glorify.

Thanks

Deafcanada

Leviticus 18: 22 - "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

It's saying a man shouldn't have sex with another man. That's a homosexual act, but you can be a homosexual without having sex. I've argued this so many times but people seem to ignore it. The bible doesn't mention being a homosexual is a sin it just says having homosexual sex is a sin.

And you've been proven wrong, big time, in these dealings. You lack any biblcal subatance to what you argue...so you can argue all you want...it doesn't change the fact you're wrong.

[Bob Dole]

And you've been proven wrong, big time, in these dealings. You lack any biblcal subatance to what you argue...so you can argue all you want...it doesn't change the fact you're wrong.

Everything I claim has come directly from the bible, no one has shown anything to the contrary, every time someone claims something new about homosexuality in the bible I've proven it wrong by doing research into the meanings of the original wording of the bible. I don't understand where I've been proven wrong.

All I want is one line from the bible that says homosexuality is wrong. I don't mean homosexual sex, lust or male prostitution, I mean homosexuality, being attracted to the members of the same sex. Again, I don't mean lust. Everything in the bible that mentions homosexuality means homosexual sex if you look at the original writings.

[apothanein kerdos]

And you've been proven wrong, big time, in these dealings. You lack any biblcal subatance to what you argue...so you can argue all you want...it doesn't change the fact you're wrong.

Everything I claim has come directly from the bible, no one has shown anything to the contrary, every time someone claims something new about homosexuality in the bible I've proven it wrong by doing research into the meanings of the original wording of the bible. I don't understand where I've been proven wrong.

All I want is one line from the bible that says homosexuality is wrong. I don't mean homosexual sex, lust or male prostitution, I mean homosexuality, being attracted to the members of the same sex. Again, I don't mean lust. Everything in the bible that mentions homosexuality means homosexual sex if you look at the original writings.

And I've proven you absolutely incorrect on that. You can say all you want, but the fact is, in the debate on the "bishop" thread, you are 100% wrong. I have proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt, you choose to ignore it, that's the problem.

[xyzisme]

Well that is his Holy City, It certinly won't go by unnoticed by God. It will be interesting to see if sends down fire from the sky or not. I think not. the fact is that he hates the sin but those sinners are his children. No matter what they did, there is still hope that they may find their way back to him. Homosexuals of today are the Samaritans of yesterday. If Jesus were here today he might tell that story by saying, a certain gay man by the name of ****** found the hebrew lying on the side of the road, and he paid for him to be cared for and get better, when no others would, so who then is your neighbor. He used the example of a Samaritan, because back then that group of people were dispised. He was trying to teach us, to be everyones neighbor, no matter what their sin is. If we go around hating them and makeing them miserable, how are they ever going to see that God loves them. I hope none of us indignent straight folk ever have to suffer those kind of hot tempered feelings over one of our sins. What if everyone started hating fat people. Greed is a sin too. Over 60% of Americans are obese. Is that a life style some of you can relate with? Sorry to take such a harsh road on this one, but this is something that really bothers me. I think that civilization is responsible for these people changeing their life styles. We turn a blind eye to so many sins that end up emotionally scarring and hurting people, and then we let those people raise kids, without even thinking about helping them. I'm not saying all Christians do, or all people do, but we are a part of this society and we will be held responisble for the things that happen durring our generations. I think most of them are just sufffering in some place that does not allow them to feel the way they should about natural relationships, and because they need love to, they look for it in other places.

To them it feels like they have no choice, or that they were always that way, because those needs inside them to be accepted and loved are just as real as ours, but when they can't find a way to be happy the natural way, because they've been hurt, they look for other ways. Then we attack them for thier pain. Somewhere along the line, I beleive of them have a story of some sort, something that caused them to reject the natural way of doing things, because it's unpleasant,uncomfortable, unfulfilling to them. We should not be discusted with them, we should be praying for them to have a great healing that only God can give.

[apothanein kerdos]

Homosexuals of today are the Samaritans of yesterday.

Samaritans were a group of people that were only partially Jewish, thus they were hated for their race. Homosexuals have a choice in the matter and are not people that are hated (in most cases) but their sin is. Yes, we should show love, but at the same time we need to let them know that what they are doing and the state they are in is sinful. Samaritans and homosexuals are complete polar opposites when applied to this situation.

[xyzisme]

You are right of course, homosexuality is a sin, it is very obvious that God dissapproves. If it had only been mentioned once, but no many times he made it clear. And yes, I guess they are making the choice to be homosexuals, because no it is not a natural conditon. Babies are not born with those ideas inside of them. But they are a hated people, I am guessing there is far more discrimantion against them that for the samaritans. I never heard of Samaritan bashing, but Gays are beaten all the time just for leaving their house.

The point I am trying to make about the choice though, is that they are just looking for another way to answer their problem. If a blind man takes a seeing eye dog, he is solving his problem. He did not want to be blind, and what ever caused it to be so, he did not ask for either. I am saying they are hurt. They did not ask to be tempted by some other man, or beaten by their fathers, or rejected by thier mothers, or repulsed by a female relationship with a horrible woman, or raped as children, or the many many other things that are causeing them to be unable to be happy in a natural relationship. It doesn't have to be a single horrible event, maybe they were rejected a little at a time by other kids, or hated in school, or not preferred over a sibling. I am saying there was damage caused to them or the natural things would be working naturally just like God intended them to. But they are not able to feel the things they should for the opposite sex, so instead of looking for a healing from God, they look somewhere else for love. It is really a sad thing. Just like the blind man will never know the color blue, and he can make due with the seeing eye dog, they are making due the best they can. It's like the story of porn, if they didn't make it noone would look, and if people didn't want to look noone would make it. Who is more guilty. The gays or the society which created them. Of course they have to be taught what they are doing is wrong in the eyes of God, But do we walk up to them and say terrible sinner, or do we say, God has something better for you and you can have it if you ask him.