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Hello All,

It is my hope that each post will tell only the things that each of us have learned from the verses in Matthew 1. The reason is that each person has a level of spiritual growth and understanding unique only to himself/herself, for the very simple reason that each individual has his own thinking process.

Each of us has learned some things that are true according to the Lord, and each of us has also learned things in error. So, when each of us post, there will likely be within each one things that are true and things that are in error. Because some of us have been taught straight from the scriptures, and some have been taught by true prophets of God, and some have been taught by false prohets.

For that reason I ask; Please refrain from debate, and from contention, and especially refrain from accusations against one another. I look forward to hearing fresh insights from each who choose to partcipate in this type of study.

Several years ago that quiet voice within the coscience, that we call the still small voice of the Lord, impressed upon my conscience again and again that if I knew the meanings of names of people and places in the scriptures, I would have a much better understanding of what is written there. Finding that to be true, employing the meanings of names became a major tool in my personal method of study.

A precept is ageneral rule regulating behavior and thought. The word originated from the Latin praeceptum "something advised." I also found that studying the scriptures line upon line, verse upon verse, in the order in which they were written in each chapter, increased my overall understanding of the life examples foud there. Therefoe, ADVICE upon ADVICE, and line upon line, finding a little knowledge here and a little knowledge there, I study strictly from the scriptures, for that is how it must be. (Isa28:10-12)

(Isa28:13-15 refers to those who would not hear precept upon precept and line upon line.) Anything I learn from mankind MUST confirm what I learn from scripture, before I can accept it.

I can see and understand the geneology from the natural point of view as well as anyone else. But I was also interested in understanding the spiritual aspects of the geneology.

I will present what I have learned in my study of Mattew beginning with Matthew 1:1 in another post. :ph34r: My husband needs the telephone right now.

Anne


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Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

I will be curious to see.

In His Love,

Suzanne


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God is obviously very concerned with geneologies, this info has been most carefully preserved throughout the centuries for it to be in our hands today. I believe there was divine protection of these names in this lineage, despite so much destruction and exile of the Jews.

This great care taken in preserving each name reflects the same great care He will give to each name written in the Book of Life.

The precious seed of Christ was carried down through the centuries in an incredible hodgepodge of characters. From saints to harlots to kings to carpenters.......some good, some evil. Are all His ancestors in the Book of Life?

As a Jew or Israelite, His lineage was certainly not pure, but tainted by interbreeding with other nations. Ruth was a Moabitess, Rahab was from Jericho, a Canaanitess, who was Rehoboam's mother? Jews take their race from the mother's side, so I find this interesting.

I think a study of the meanings of the names in Christ's lineage would be quite interesting.

My two cents so far. I'm interested to watch this thread unfold.


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Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

People were as sceptical and unbelieving in Matthew's day as they are in this present generaton. So, as I see this, Matthew made certain that everyone who might read this book of the gospel would know exactly who he was writing about. Matthew traced the geneology of Yeshua Christ back as far as Abraham.

This verse has the effect of telling the reader that Matthew is quoting the book of public records of Yeshua's human ancestry.

But there is also a spiritual aspect in the geneology of our Lord, involving both the spirit of love and the spirit of hate. The bible tells us that the blessings of them that love God continue unto a thousand generations, and the sins of the fathers are vested unto the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate God. Vested means compound interest recognised as belonging to a certain individual, a personal stake in an undertaking or state of affairs. The fact that this nation is steeping in sin today should be a sign of the times that is a wake-up call to all professing Christians that we have not loved God, even though we have convinced ourselves that we do.

For that reason, I seek to understand the "spiritual geneology" of the ancestry of my Lord. The Hebrew people named their childen after events and circumstances at their births, and because of that I need to know the meanings of names.

Meanings from the Strong's

generation - g1078 - source, origin

Jesus - h2424 - Jehovah is salvation (earlier printings - Jehovah saved)

Christ - g5547 - anointed, consecrated to office of service through contanct

David - h1138 - loving

Abraham - h11 - father of a multitude

If we read the verse with the meanings applied, we hear the spiritual message rather than the natural one. Doing so does not change the scriptures, but MAGNIFIES them.

1:1 The book of the source (Mary) and the origin (Holy Spirit) of Jehovah is salvation (Yeshua), anointed of God and consecrated to office of service (to God) through contact (with God), the son of loving (David), the son of father of a multitude (Abraham).

The thought that is provoked within me is this;

The word --- spoken by prophets of God, just as God had spoken it to them --- became flesh. The SPOKEN, vocalized, promise of God MANIFESTED, just as it had been spoken in prophesy.

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Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

The book of the generation of "Jesus Christ" = THE SON OF GOD.

This title expresses the relation of the Son to the Father (Matthew 1:20. Luke 1:31,35); and of all those who are begotten of God. It differs therefore from the relationship expressed by "the Son of man", which relates to "dominion" in the earth.

As the Son of God, Christ is "the heir of all things" (Hebrews 1:2), and is invested with "all power", and is "the Resurrection and the Life" (John 11:25), having power to raise the dead (John 5:25). As "the Son of man", all judgment is committed to Him (John 5:27) in the earth.

THE SON OF ABRAHAM (Matthew 1:1).

Expresses the relation of the Son of man, as being heir to the land given to Abraham (Genesis 15:18-21).

THE SON OF DAVID (Matthew 1:1. Luke 1:32, etc.).

Expresses His relationship, as being the Heir to David's throne (2Samuel 7:12-16. Isaiah 11:1. Acts 2:29-32; 13:33-37. Revelation 5:5; 22:16


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Hello all :t2:

10Hezekiah begot Manasseh, Manasseh begot Amon, and Amon begot Josiah. 11Josiah begot Jeconiah and his brothers about the time they were carried away to Babylon.

12And after they were brought to Babylon, Jeconiah begot Shealtiel, and Shealtiel begot Zerubbabel. 13Zerubbabel begot Abiud, Abiud begot Eliakim, and Eliakim begot Azor. 14Azor begot Zadok, Zadok begot Achim, and Achim begot Eliud. 15Eliud begot Eleazar, Eleazar begot Matthan, and Matthan begot Jacob. 16And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ.

Notice how all the preceding generations where begot But Jesus was not begot. Thats because joseph was not the father of Jesus.

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.

While Jesus existed in the flesh while He dwelled in this world He was never fully human in the spiritual sense He was perfect in that sense and that was required for there to be a perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world.

19Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly.

This confuses me. If Joseph was a just man then he would have seen Mary


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Matt 1:2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob, and Jacb begat Judas and his brethren;

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begat - g1080 - to be born (naturally),

as a metaphor - a) to engender, to cause to arise, excite

b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his way of life, to convert someone,

c) of God making Christ his son,

d)of God making men his sons through faith in Christ.

Isaac - h2464 - to laugh

Jacob - h2384 - heel-catcher, supplanter

Judas - h2455 - he shall be praised (older printings of the Strong's give "celebrated as in worship)

brethren - g80 - same parets one or both,

same national ancestor, same people, countrymen

fellow believer, united by bond of affection, an employment associate

brethren to Christ;

a)by blood

b)mankind

c)apostles

d)Christians, as those who are exalted to the SAME heavenly places

With the meanings applied, I hear this;

1:2 Father of a multitude (Abraham) caused joy, laughter (Isaac) to arise; and joy, laughter (Isaac) caused supplanter (Jacob) to arise; and supplanter (Jacob) caused he shall be praised (Judah) and his fellow believers to arise.

The thought that is provoked by the verse read this way is:

In the scriptures, we are ADVISED to hold fast to our joy (who is Yeshua), and to allow the truth (who is also Yeshua), to supplant all false doctrines. Accomplishing this is great cause to praise God the Father. We are told that God inhabits the praises of HIS people, so he is living among us when our praise of God is sincere. And when God is among us through our obedience to praise him, WE rse up VICTORIOUS.


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Verse 11, Josiah begot Jeconiah and his brothers about the time they were carried away to Babylon.

This is the lineage of Joseph. If Joseph had been Jesus' father, then Jesus would not be allowed to reign on David's throne.

Jer 22:24 As I live, saith the LORD, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were the signet upon my right hand, yet would I pluck thee thence;

Jer 22:25 And I will give thee into the hand of them that seek thy life, and into the hand of them whose face thou fearest, even into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, and into the hand of the Chaldeans.

Jer 22:26 And I will cast thee out, and thy mother that bore thee, into another country, where ye were not born; and there shall ye die.

Jer 22:27 But to the land whereunto they desire to return, thither shall they not return.

Jer 22:28 Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not?

Jer 22:29 O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD.

Jer 22:30 Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.


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Mrs Mac

Very interesting Sister.

I know this is a side issue but could someone help me here.

1 Chronicles 3

15  And the sons of Josiah were, the firstborn Johanan, the second Jehoiakim, the third Zedekiah, the fourth Shallum.

Jehoiakim (Coniah) was the second son of Josiah. Does any one know what happened to His first son Johanan?

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Matt 1:3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; And Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram

The Strong's

begat - g1080 - to be born (naturally),

as a metaphor - a) to engender, to cause to arise, excite

b) in a Jewish sense, of one who brings others over to his way of life, to convert someone,

c) of God making Christ his son,

d)of God making men his sons through faith in Christ.

Judas - h2455 - he shall be raised, (celebrated as in worship)

Phares - h5329 - a breach

Zara - h2196 - a rising (as the sun)

Thamar - h2283 - palm tree

Phares and Zara were Judah's twin sons by his daughter-in-law, the wife of both Er (watchful) and Onan (strong). (These meanings according to the Smith's). Both of these men were wicked in the eyes of the Lord.

Esrom - h2074 - enclosed

Aram - h689 - high

Reading wirh the meanings applied;

1:1 And he shall be praised, celebrated as in worship (Judah) caused a breach (Phares) and a rising as the sun (Zara) to arise (out of) palm tree (Thamar); and a breach (Phares) cased to arise enclosed (Esrom); and enclsed (Esrom) caused to arise high (Aram)

By using the meanings of names in this verse, I am made to understand that that it is THE MAN WHO WORSHIPS GOD who causes A BREACH between God and the people, while at the same time causing the rising up of enlightenment of God among those same people. Both the breach and the enlightenment arise out of something mankind judges to be upright and honorable among men.

The breach is produced by the righteousness of MEN, righteousness that is as dirty rags in the sight of God. Because he worships God the way he wants to worship God instead of the way God wants to be worshipped.

Having caused a breach between himself and God, the man who has doe it then encloses himself in deception, both by self and by others, and in that deception, exalts himself.

Meanwhile, spiritual enlightenment rises up out of the righteousness of God AFTER it has entered into the hearts of men. (If ENLIGHTENMENT had caused the people to be enclosed in the righteousness of God, exalting the people in that righteousness, would God have needed to send Yeshua to save us from unrighteousness, otherwise known to us as sin? )

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