global warming

[thechild]

hey, i ate swine at a wedding party this weekend. does that make me a christian in good standing again? no, it means i loved the people there enough not to be offensive at a celebration. but i certainly didnt "pig out" on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing wrong you did in eating pork was defiling your own conscience and sinning by not eating in faith. If you feel you sinned, confess it and move on.

youre kidding me, right?

[Rober H]

Global warming or pork eating. What's the topic?

[Rober H]

no one is willing to give up their worldly gains, not to save a few kids from death by asthma attack, not for any reason unless it effects them personally. then its too late and the herd - they are always deaf to your cries. been there, done that, too.

"Pack your bags boys. We are going on a guilt trip"

[thechild]

I am not saying there is no warming taking place. I am just saying it is the result of natural cycles. I have a copy of an old article speaking of a cooling world from the mid 70s. Today we are in a warming trend. 20 years from now, we may be cooling off again. God is in control of this, not man.

When it comes to exhaust, I don't know of anyone that thinks it is good and safe. There is just nothing we can do about it, except return to the horse and buggy days. It is just a reality of life today, and until an alternative to the internal combustion engine is found, there is no need to make it a political issue. The best environmentalists can do is throw out the idea of higher fuel taxes and better fuel economy. These are not solutions.

that sounds like a cop out. actually, it is the herd mentality. so long as those that die are kept to a certain level, the herd wont leave or change anything so that the lion can come along again and take another at will. it keeps you in green grass, until that day you get picked.

i have lived with nothing but a wood stove. i know what is required for survival. americans live like kings, even the homeless ones, compared to the rest of the world. no one is willing to give up their worldly gains, not to save a few kids from death by asthma attack, not for any reason unless it effects them personally. then its too late and the herd - they are always deaf to your cries. been there, done that, too.

What do you suggest we do? Are you saying we should go back to the horse and buggy days? Do you drive a car? I know you use the internet so you don't live like the Amish.

we are in a mess, arent we? the whole thing is unsustainable. i have children. what are we leaving them?

i spend most of my time at home. i am generally loathe to go anywhere. i have multiple chemical sensitivity and i can feel what those fumes are doing. my wife bough a flea collar for the puppy and within minutes my tongue and nose was numb from the organophosphates comming off of it. i looked at the package and it comes with an 800 number to call in case of emergencies, or, it said, call poison control. who in their right mind buys such a thing with that on the package? it got thrown out immediately. imagine what that puppy was experiencing and couldnt say a word!

[thechild]

hey, i ate swine at a wedding party this weekend. does that make me a christian in good standing again? no, it means i loved the people there enough not to be offensive at a celebration. but i certainly didnt "pig out" on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only thing wrong you did in eating pork was defiling your own conscience and sinning by not eating in faith. If you feel you sinned, confess it and move on.

youre kidding me, right?

I am absolutely serious.

well, thats too bad. by your definition i am defiling my conscience every time i eat anything but fruit. that is my goal - fruitarian. do you have a goal? do people make fun of you when they are aware of it and know you havent reached it yet? i am down to one cup of coffee per day, is that good or am i a failure there too?

i am fully aware of what i put in my body and what it does in there and exactly when it is out. i spend at least part of my day with nothing solid in my guts every day. i am that in tune with my body. i got this way because it was essential to my recovery. all of the health things i say, i have proved to myself through self experimentation. i take nobody's word for anything unless i have a lot of experience with them, then i still check it out to see how it works with me. everyone is a little different, another fallacy in the one size fits all medical system.

[thechild]

At the same time, what is the puppy going through with the fleas? I guess the only thing you can do is move to a remote area away from pollution if you feel that way. You mentioned living in Alaska. Why did you move away from there if you liked it so much?

he doesnt have fleas. we give him garlic and yeast pills. they sell them at walmart.

alaska is very bad. the military does what they want there, and dont tell a soul. then there is the mining industry and the extreme weather. suffice it to say, fairbanks is more polluted than los angeles. even the epa knows that.

[thechild]

But are you doing these things because you care about your health or by conviction? God never commands in his Word you can't drink coffee or eat meat. I am sipping on my 3rd cup of coffee right now, but I am not convicted about it.

[thechild]

At the same time, what is the puppy going through with the fleas? I guess the only thing you can do is move to a remote area away from pollution if you feel that way. You mentioned living in Alaska. Why did you move away from there if you liked it so much?

he doesnt have fleas. we give him garlic and yeast pills. they sell them at walmart.

alaska is very bad. the military does what they want there, and dont tell a soul. then there is the mining industry and the extreme weather. suffice it to say, fairbanks is more polluted than los angeles. even the epa knows that.

It is hard to imagine anyplace more polluted than Los Angeles. I hate going there because of all the smog. It makes you choke looking at it.

Even if Fairbanks is polluted, Alaska is a huge state. Why not move to one of the remote areas? If that won't work for you, I drive coast to coast and have seen many areas of places like Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Montana, etc. that have clean air and would make wonderful places to dwell for a health conscious person like yourself.

every place has its hazards. the lord called me to jump in the middle of the frying pan. thats where i went. i worship God, not my body. and as far as the wilderness of alaska is concerned, i did that when i was younger. i was too sick when i left ot do anything. i am just now able to put in a day of chores at home. i think i am in a pretty clean spot, but it has its drawbacks. awareness is half the battle.

[apothanein kerdos]

the lord called me to jump in the middle of the frying pan. thats where i went.

Surely you mean this figuratively and not literally, right?

[EricH]

This has run its course