Plain Jane or Glam Maam

[buckthesystem]

QUOTE(Leonard @ Jun 29 2006, 07:27 AM)

MAY????? Who do you think you're kidding?

If the barn door needs paint, paint it!

This is a brilliant comment. And oh so true.

However, I think we have to accept people for what they are. All people. God does. He will see through the layer of make-up and knows exactly what we really look like.

Seriously though, make-up is great - it makes women (and a lot of men) look really good. But we must always bear in mind that if we are wearing makeup and dressing "to please" (either ourselves or others) it is going to get harder and harder as we get older.

I never wear make up or "dress up" but then I never did. I am not worried about my husband looking at PYTs, if he wants to he can but somehow I don't think he ever would. Someone said (sorry, it is late and I can't be bothered going back to find out who said it) that men want the woman they married (apologies if I got the wording wrong), but how could I look like the woman my husband married - I am 50 now and if I tried to look like a 20 year old I would look ridiculous.

Likewise my husband is not the man I married either. All those years ago I married a fit, slender 26 year old and he is now 57 and with a "beer gut" and is balding.

I am not saying that we should look "slovenly" either (I'm just thinking of all the money I save by not buying make up and high heeled shoes).

Surely that comes into it.

[LadyRaven]

QUOTE(Leonard @ Jun 29 2006, 07:27 AM)

MAY????? Who do you think you're kidding?

If the barn door needs paint, paint it!

This is a brilliant comment. And oh so true.

However, I think we have to accept people for what they are. All people. God does. He will see through the layer of make-up and knows exactly what we really look like.

Seriously though, make-up is great - it makes women (and a lot of men) look really good. But we must always bear in mind that if we are wearing makeup and dressing "to please" (either ourselves or others) it is going to get harder and harder as we get older.

I never wear make up or "dress up" but then I never did. I am not worried about my husband looking at PYTs, if he wants to he can but somehow I don't think he ever would. Someone said (sorry, it is late and I can't be bothered going back to find out who said it) that men want the woman they married (apologies if I got the wording wrong), but how could I look like the woman my husband married - I am 50 now and if I tried to look like a 20 year old I would look ridiculous.

Likewise my husband is not the man I married either. All those years ago I married a fit, slender 26 year old and he is now 57 and with a "beer gut" and is balding.

I am not saying that we should look "slovenly" either (I'm just thinking of all the money I save by not buying make up and high heeled shoes).

Surely that comes into it.

Well when I said that I didn't believe in bait and switch I just meant that if you were a plain, meat and potatoes, no make up jeans and t shirt kinda girl, don't try to dress up just cause you got married...and if you were the type to wear makeup and dress up, don't stop just cause you got the guy.

Which all comes down to way you do it in the first place. Your outsides should always match your insides. This way you won't "stop" dressing nice because you got a man, cause that's not why you did so in the first place. It's about being who you are.

I always wear dresses, unless I'm mountain climbing or something where a man could look up my skirt or something, and any one who knows me knows its sort of a trademark of mine. These dresses (or skirts) are almost floor length and have never gotten in my way for any activity I've wanted to do. Some guy asked me how I rode a motorcycle, I asked if he was asking to take me for a ride. I pinned my skirt a certain way and sat on all the extra material and we went for a ride. (he's a friend not a dating prospect)

Now, if I up and decided to get married and then broke out the jeans...that would mean that I was wearing these dresses to attract a mate. And I probably found one who, at least, accepted my dresses and most likely LIKED them. Granted I would hope he married me because he apprecieated me for who I was, but, if I'm lying about my clothing preferences, what else am I lying about? that was my point really.

[ayin jade]

MAY????? Who do you think you're kidding?

If the barn door needs paint, paint it!

Does the barn door really need paint? Or is the farmer one who wants his barn door to be the prettiest thing around so he doesnt look at other barn doors?

I dont wear makeup. I am a t-shirt and jeans kinda person. My husband loves me no matter what. My cousin on the other hand, has some problems. She is anorexic and a nervous wreck because her husband is downright cruel to her if she doesnt look perfect. Scripture says husbands love your wives, not husbands love your wives only if they look good enough for you.

[Brandli5]

Is it wrong for men to wear make-up? And if so why?

Not exactly answering your question but your response feeds into mine. I DON"T wear make-up.............men (usually) don't wear make up, why is it necessary for women to have to wear it????? Because of cultural expectations????? My face looks fine the way God made it, and thats good enough for me!

I know men who wear makeup. Some wear it to hide something, or to look good on stage or TV. I do not see a reason why makeup would be a problem if its not like clown or whatever.

[Scarletprayers]

Is it wrong for men to wear make-up? And if so why?

Not exactly answering your question but your response feeds into mine. I DON"T wear make-up.............men (usually) don't wear make up, why is it necessary for women to have to wear it????? Because of cultural expectations????? My face looks fine the way God made it, and thats good enough for me!

I know men who wear makeup. Some wear it to hide something, or to look good on stage or TV. I do not see a reason why makeup would be a problem if its not like clown or whatever.

I wasn't talking about TV personalities or someone wearing makeup as a cover up. Our society dictates, women should have their hair fixed and make up and yada yada yada, it is cultural in our society, yet we don't think men look "washed" out or "unfinished" without make-up. I was burned about a year ago, with most of the scaring is to my face and neck) I don't wear make now, but I didn't wear it before either (well not true, occasionally I did). I must admit sometimes when I look in the mirror, I want to run out and buy all of the fancy, expensive make-ups to make those scars go away. But, the people that loved me before I was burned, still love me, make up/no make up, scars/no scars. Who I am is internal, and the actions I present to the world, not about slapping a coat of paint on my face.

I don't have a problem with people wanting to improve their apperance, I'm a pretty well a to each his own kinda gal. But, some of the beautiful people I have know, had nothing else going for them, and some of the plainest were the most beautiful people it has ever been my honor to met. If someone needs, mascara, eye liner, lip stick, blush and foundation to be able to look at me and find me pleasing in their eyes...............I'm really sorry for them, cause I ain't much to look at.....................but I'll pray for you every day offering your name to the Lord in friendship. I'll keep your secrets, and cry and laugh with you. I'll stand by you through thick and thin. Those are the things that are important to me, and I bet when you get right down to it..................those are the things that really matter to most of us!

[Ovedya]

Did you guys know that, at one time, there were laws that allowed men to divorce their wives for wearing make-up?

There is a story in Sufi (A branch of Islam) tradition that tells of a man who divorced his wife for wearing make-up. His claim was that she had deceived him on the wedding day. When he saw her on the morning after their "honeymoon" without makeup he immediately diclaimed her as his wife. Even today, under sharia law a man may divorce his wife for a "deception" such as this.

[Marnie]

I don't wear much makeup because I dont like how it feels. But, if I wouldn't NOT wear it because of my church nor would I force myself to wear it to attract a man. I agree with Leonard and Jade; in other words, it should be the individual's choice within the bounds of good taste.

[Brandli5]

Thats the question Marine. How much, is to much to be good taste.

This world is a Phyical world. ITs so sad, and sometimes it makes me want to scream how much people put on phyical appearnces.

its sick. I just want to shake some people because so many people go after looks or money.

They need to go after whats in the heart. Lesson learned a long time ago with me. It took some harsh living to find that out.

I am blessed now to see that phyical appreances do not mean jack when it comes to friendships , Spouses, ect.

When I see a person who is really nice looking, and I meet them I am sometimes disapointed. Its like for example when you see a really nice looking man and you say wow he looks really good. Then he opens his mouth. Boom right down the chute it goes.

I rather pick a man on his talking and his heart than looks. Wearing makeup does not prove anything to me except when a person uses it to be something they are not, or show off.

I mean if you can tell a woman has on makeup most of the time its to much. Thats what the magizines say anyway. SOMe of them. lol.

I have also been suprised too when I meet someone whose looks are questionable, I feel scared, or not able to talk, then I meet them and find out they are nicest person in the world.

I am ashamed to because I get appreances mixed up alot of times. The world has trained us sometimes to be that way. All the things that have happened in todays world.

I know a person around our town who wears about 1 gallon of makeup a day. She looks litterally like a clown. I do not know if that woman is sain or not, but she seems to be nice. She shy's away from people, but her husband sure does hold her hand everywhere she goes. I do not know if its a big deal or not??

I like to be plain alot, but sometimes I like to Glam it Maam. I myself do not like dressing up all the time, but its not a bad thing if someone choose too, I find it to be cool if they do or not.

I just hope the person who does glam up all the time would not feel lost without it, then too me its to far.

[Rania]

After 22 years of marriage, I still enjoy making myself look nice every day for my husband. That includes how I dress, too.

I feel kind of naked without make up.

[darkest_red]

I only really wear make up when I go out for an evening or something. On a day to day basis, I occassionally wear mascara and lipstick but they are both quite natural looking colours, a shade or two darker than my natural colour. My sister wears make up every day.

The first time I met my boyfriend I wasn't wearing makeup (actually, I think I had mascara on). In fact, it wasn't till we'd been going out for over a month that he saw me with make up on. It makes no difference to him whether I wear make up or not so if I do wear make up it is most certainly not to impress him. He says I look beautiful whether I wear make up or not!