Sin?

[buckthesystem]

OK, I get the difference between deliberate sin and sin committed "on the spur of the moment". I struggled with the question as to why God heals some of us "from day one" and not others, i.e. some who may suffer from depression or be drug addicts or alcoholics or porn addicts or whatever, come out of the sin that is controlling their life, or are healed of the condition, immediately, while others are left to struggle with it on their own.

New Christians can be very weak and where some find that as long as they have Christ in their life they can do anything, others feel just as fragile as before.

So what if you are a drug addict and had "come to the Lord" but still had to struggle with ending this addiction on your own, and then you were actually in the process of lighting a joint or injecting yourself as you found you could not "just go cold turkey" and the rapture occurred or Jesus arrived again?

Would he forgive you knowing what was "in your heart", or judge you for your sin and leave you behind?

Thoughts?

[st. Worm]

OK, I get the difference between deliberate sin and sin committed "on the spur of the moment". I struggled with the question as to why God heals some of us "from day one" and not others, i.e. some who may suffer from depression or be drug addicts or alcoholics or porn addicts or whatever, come out of the sin that is controlling their life, or are healed of the condition, immediately, while others are left to struggle with it on their own.

New Christians can be very weak and where some find that as long as they have Christ in their life they can do anything, others feel just as fragile as before.

So what if you are a drug addict and had "come to the Lord" but still had to struggle with ending this addiction on your own, and then you were actually in the process of lighting a joint or injecting yourself as you found you could not "just go cold turkey" and the rapture occurred or Jesus arrived again?

Would he forgive you knowing what was "in your heart", or judge you for your sin and leave you behind?

Thoughts?

Jesus knows who are his. He is the author and perfector of our faith. He came for sinners, not the righteous.

sw

[eric]

OK, I get the difference between deliberate sin and sin committed "on the spur of the moment". I struggled with the question as to why God heals some of us "from day one" and not others, i.e. some who may suffer from depression or be drug addicts or alcoholics or porn addicts or whatever, come out of the sin that is controlling their life, or are healed of the condition, immediately, while others are left to struggle with it on their own.

New Christians can be very weak and where some find that as long as they have Christ in their life they can do anything, others feel just as fragile as before.

So what if you are a drug addict and had "come to the Lord" but still had to struggle with ending this addiction on your own, and then you were actually in the process of lighting a joint or injecting yourself as you found you could not "just go cold turkey" and the rapture occurred or Jesus arrived again?

Would he forgive you knowing what was "in your heart", or judge you for your sin and leave you behind?

Thoughts?

Jesus knows who are his. He is the author and perfector of our faith. He came for sinners, not the righteous.

sw

There is a lot of truth in whay you both say here. I think it's pretty obvious that when the Lord arrives unexpectedly, there will be some people who are new to the faith and are struggling with some sin they are trying to quit because of the conviction of the Holy Spirit. I have no idea how the Lord will judge those young christians, but if a person, who has read the bible thoroughly for years and years and is in the midst of deliberate sinning on the Lord's return, then that person deserves the same treatment as the five foolish virgins. God will not be mocked. If you take up the cross and follow Him, you better be prepared to carry it all the way. If it gets too heavy don't dump it on the side of the road and go back to where you started. Lay it down for a spell and pray and take it up again. He knows the pain and I believe He will restrengthen you, because that's what He is like.

my thoughts anyway.

Hey Suzanne, I've missed you.

Greetingsin His name,

eric

[nebula]

No neb, I said you were in the glorious hot air balloon because you seem relatively uninterested in repentance yet very interested in your good works.

Saint - would you please listen to what I am actually saying. For the umpteenth dozen time, that isn't what I was saying.

[st. Worm]

No neb, I said you were in the glorious hot air balloon because you seem relatively uninterested in repentance yet very interested in your good works.

Saint - would you please listen to what I am actually saying. For the umpteenth dozen time, that isn't what I was saying.

I don't listen to you but I read your words!

sw

[Snow4JC]

No neb, I said you were in the glorious hot air balloon because you seem relatively uninterested in repentance yet very interested in your good works.

Saint - would you please listen to what I am actually saying. For the umpteenth dozen time, that isn't what I was saying.

I don't listen to you but I read your words!

sw

sw~ If you won't listen to nebula, how do you expect any WB member to listen to you?!

snow

[nebula]

Hearing and listening are two different things. What you have said I said has a completely different meaning than what I actually said.

[eric]

I say it again, Neb. You sure got some patience. You go girl.

[tsth]

"Addicted" is a made up word that gives credence to the power of the enemy, rather than the Power of the Lord to deliver. "Addicted" is a lie, to sooth consciences and passify those who want to continue on in their sin lifestyle.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[tsth]

John 5:14

Later Jesus found him at the temple and said to him, "See, you are well again. Stop sinning or something worse may happen to you."

John 8:11

"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

Do we believe?

John 15:22

If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin.

Joh 15:24

If I had not done among them what no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. But now they have seen these miracles, and yet they have hated both me and my Father.

John 16:8

When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:

Joh 16:9

in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me;

1Corinthians 15:34

Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God--I say this to your shame.

2Peter 2:14

With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed--an accursed brood!

His Power is sufficient!

In His Love,

Suzanne