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They're are also a lot of homosexuals that would agree that it is a choice. Would you disagree with them?

What on earth do you think about bisexual tendencies? I call it multiple choice.

Whether they feel it's a choice or not, I do not believe God made them that way.

One thing interesting I've noticed, around 80 percent of homosexuals where molested, or their first sexual experience was with the same sex, interesting.

I believe bisexual, is based off of Lust. Same with homosexuality. Sad so many confuse love with sexual attraction, ya know some see animals as sexualy attractive, very sick.

It's all sin, and it's all based on a choice. we all face temptation, it's always a choice to give into it or not, there is no gay gene no more than there is a drug addiction gene. It's all based on personal experience, temptation, and choice.

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the christian doctrine does NOT promote prejudice, inadvertantly or otherwise. the prejudice comes from those who can not distinguish the act from the individual and thus assume that since we don't support the ACT, we must be hating the individual who commits the act. this is pretty much the same thing as reverse-discrimination.


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That study wasn't a scientific one anyway - it was sociological.

"But, I still can't help feel that it isn't, and that's where the Christian doctrine inadvertently promotes prejudice."

Never trust your feelings brother. Always trust the scriptures.


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One thing interesting I've noticed, around 80 percent of homosexuals where molested, or their first sexual experience was with the same sex, interesting.

I believe bisexual, is based off of Lust. Same with homosexuality. Sad so many confuse love with sexual attraction, ya know some see animals as sexualy attractive, very sick.

It's all sin, and it's all based on a choice. we all face temptation, it's always a choice to give into it or not, there is no gay gene no more than there is a drug addiction gene. It's all based on personal experience, temptation, and choice.

Interesting statistic, do you know where you found that? I find it strange that the study clumped up molestation and homosexual sex in the same %... I wonder how much of that is molestation, and how much is a sexual experience with the same sex. I don't believe 80% of homosexuals being molested is an accurate statement, but I would believe that 80% of homosexuals' first sexual experience was with the same sex. If you can find it, could you cite the source for that info?

The issue that I have always had about the lust thing, is that everyone experiences lust at some point. I have lusted before, but it has always been after women. I have never once thought about lusting after a man. Ever. Not because I can resist the temptation, but because it just isn't something that I find attractive.

Obviously it is a choice to HAVE intercourse, but it is hard for me to choose who I find attractive or not, if that makes sense. I can find women attractive, but I can't, nor could I ever, find a man attractive. Me being heterosexual isn't a choice, that is why I feel being homosexual isn't a choice either. Bisexuality is bit different for me, and that is where I can see choice being more prevalent, but for people who are solely homosexual, members of the opposite sex just don't appeal to them, just like a member of my own sex doesn't appeal to me.

I think at this point it is one of those situations where people will have to agree to disagree. Knowing if people are born gay or not is honestly a personal decision at this point, there is no difinitive proof one way or another. That's how I see it at least.


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The last thing I'll say on this topic is that many seemed to be torn on whether being gay is a choice or not. But, I still can't help feel that it isn't, and that's where the Christian doctrine inadvertently promotes prejudice.

Not prejudice! Just an intolerance for sin!

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The last thing I'll say on this topic is that many seemed to be torn on whether being gay is a choice or not. But, I still can't help feel that it isn't, and that's where the Christian doctrine inadvertently promotes prejudice.

Not prejudice! Just an intolerance for sin!

and the EXCUSES for sin!


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" the Christian doctrine inadvertently promotes prejudice."

Tell God he made a mistake here then. Seriously though, take it to God and talk to him about it. I also would not use the word "prejudice" but let God speak to you. Never mind what homosexuals tell you. I do beleive some of them DO believe they can't help it, but humans are wrong in so many ways.


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personally, i don't beleive that God would call homosexuality an abomination and then make it so some people have no choice but to be gay. i just makes no sense. sure maybe there's something in genetics that makes people more suseptable to being gay, but i think it's over-all a choice.


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personally, i don't beleive that God would call homosexuality an abomination and then make it so some people have no choice but to be gay. i just makes no sense. sure maybe there's something in genetics that makes people more suseptable to being gay, but i think it's over-all a choice.

I share your point of view, except I disagree with the genetic reference. Where people attribute a genetic predisposition, I say it is a generational curse...spiritual in origin.


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personally, i don't beleive that God would call homosexuality an abomination and then make it so some people have no choice but to be gay. i just makes no sense. sure maybe there's something in genetics that makes people more suseptable to being gay, but i think it's over-all a choice.

I share your point of view, except I disagree with the genetic reference. Where people attribute a genetic predisposition, I say it is a generational curse...spiritual in origin.

The choice is in whether or not to put the inclination into action. Then, acting upon the inclination, as it would be with an alcoholic, a glut, or anyone who is concupiscent (still haven't had the correct definition brought out by anyone here...webster has it, though), the person would be sinning. Again, I agree that anyone who identifies themselves openly that they are gay, chances are, have sinned and are living in the sinful state. Anyone struggling with the inclination though...we can not call sinful.

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