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[Guest LadyC]

holding your own? oh, justaguy... i don't know who you think you're holding your own against, but you are delusional if you really believe that.

the Bible is not out of date. the Bible IS however, among many, many other things, a book of HISTORY. until you can understand that fact, and recognize that some of what is written in it, particularly the OT, was directed at specific individuals or specific situations, and included for us to read because there is value in learning from history, then you will never "get it".

[Guest LadyC]

dream on.

it would help if you understood the concept of context. God doesn't command us to provide any sacrificial offerings. at one point in HISTORY, which i know is another concept you don't understand, animal sacrifices were required. but JESUS is the lamb that was sacrificed so that we no longer had to continue such a practice.

and God never required the sacrificing of children. not even of isaac.

[Guest LadyC]

homosexuality and the biblical perspective on it. i'm glad you recognized that you'd dragged it off topic and are wanting to rectify that!

[Ovedya]

Of course it is. Care to sacrifice your children or a lamb as a burnt offering?

Did not you said that rape woman shouldn't be giving to the rapist?

Get some sleep. you are losing.

And herein lies the problem, justaguy.

Your sole purpose is to "win" the argument. It has nothing whatsoever to do with attempting to understand our faith. I told you once to go and read your Bible then come back and ask serious questions. Go do it. There's nothing worse than trying to defend Christianity from someone who only wants to be right all the time.

You know some years ago a group of collegiate researchers did a study on behavior. They placed a large fish in an empty tank. Then they placed some smaller fish in the take with it. Predictably the large fish at up all the small fish. Then they placed a piece of plexiglass in the middle of the tank, going from one side to the other. On one side was the big fish, and on the other side they placed more of the small fish. Well time after time, after time after time that big fish ran headlong into the plexiglass, until its nose bled. Then the scientists removed the plexiglass. Rather than swallow up all the small fish that big fish just swam around the tank ignoring them. Eventually that large fish died of starvation because it just wouldn't eat those small fish.

The scientists learned that pain can be an important factor to learning.

What we learn is that you can be right about something and still be unhappy. That big fish was "right" to not want to eat those small fish after the plexiglass was removed. But he proved to be "dead right."

Justaguy, you fight the battle of right and wrong. And in that battle you may just be right most of the time. But you aren't any better for being so. You aren't any wiser and you certainly haven't learned anything from the experience. Ask yourself: What if you believe with all your heart that you are right, and eventually you prove to be dead wrong. Too late to say, "Oops, sorry"when the God of the universe is staring you dead in the face. That big fish believed that it was right. It believed that if it ate those little fish it would get hurt. But it turned out that it was dead wrong.

When you're out to win there is only a temporary pleasure. When you are out to be right there are only consequences or no consequences. Either way you are not a better person, nor are you wiser from the experience on the other end.

[systemstrike_7]

Of course it is. Care to sacrifice your children or a lamb as a burnt offering?

Did not you said that rape woman shouldn't be giving to the rapist?

Get some sleep. you are losing.

And herein lies the problem, justaguy.

Your sole purpose is to "win" the argument. It has nothing whatsoever to do with attempting to understand our faith. I told you once to go and read your Bible then come back and ask serious questions. Go do it. There's nothing worse than trying to defend Christianity from someone who only wants to be right all the time.

You know some years ago a group of collegiate researchers did a study on behavior. They placed a large fish in an empty tank. Then they placed some smaller fish in the take with it. Predictably the large fish at up all the small fish. Then they placed a piece of plexiglass in the middle of the tank, going from one side to the other. On one side was the big fish, and on the other side they placed more of the small fish. Well time after time, after time after time that big fish ran headlong into the plexiglass, until its nose bled. Then the scientists removed the plexiglass. Rather than swallow up all the small fish that big fish just swam around the tank ignoring them. Eventually that large fish died of starvation because it just wouldn't eat those small fish.

The scientists learned that pain can be an important factor to learning.

What we learn is that you can be right about something and still be unhappy. That big fish was "right" to not want to eat those small fish after the plexiglass was removed. But he proved to be "dead right."

Justaguy, you fight the battle of right and wrong. And in that battle you may just be right most of the time. But you aren't any better for being so. You aren't any wiser and you certainly haven't learned anything from the experience. Ask yourself: What if you believe with all your heart that you are right, and eventually you prove to be dead wrong. Too late to say, "Oops, sorry"when the God of the universe is staring you dead in the face. That big fish believed that it was right. It believed that if it ate those little fish it would get hurt. But it turned out that it was dead wrong.

When you're out to win there is only a temporary pleasure. When you are out to be right there are only consequences or no consequences. Either way you are not a better person, nor are you wiser from the experience on the other end.

So well said!

It took me two years of battling God to come to this conclusion. I was on a mission to prove myself right, and to prove Christians wrong. Finally, I took my own initiative and other influences out of the equation and started searching for the truth. I found that truth, yet I never would have found it without God to take my pride and show me the way...

[Ovedya]

Of course it is. Care to sacrifice your children or a lamb as a burnt offering?

Did not you said that rape woman shouldn't be giving to the rapist?

Get some sleep. you are losing.

And herein lies the problem, justaguy.

Your sole purpose is to "win" the argument. It has nothing whatsoever to do with attempting to understand our faith. I told you once to go and read your Bible then come back and ask serious questions. Go do it. There's nothing worse than trying to defend Christianity from someone who only wants to be right all the time.

You know some years ago a group of collegiate researchers did a study on behavior. They placed a large fish in an empty tank. Then they placed some smaller fish in the take with it. Predictably the large fish at up all the small fish. Then they placed a piece of plexiglass in the middle of the tank, going from one side to the other. On one side was the big fish, and on the other side they placed more of the small fish. Well time after time, after time after time that big fish ran headlong into the plexiglass, until its nose bled. Then the scientists removed the plexiglass. Rather than swallow up all the small fish that big fish just swam around the tank ignoring them. Eventually that large fish died of starvation because it just wouldn't eat those small fish.

The scientists learned that pain can be an important factor to learning.

What we learn is that you can be right about something and still be unhappy. That big fish was "right" to not want to eat those small fish after the plexiglass was removed. But he proved to be "dead right."

Justaguy, you fight the battle of right and wrong. And in that battle you may just be right most of the time. But you aren't any better for being so. You aren't any wiser and you certainly haven't learned anything from the experience. Ask yourself: What if you believe with all your heart that you are right, and eventually you prove to be dead wrong. Too late to say, "Oops, sorry"when the God of the universe is staring you dead in the face. That big fish believed that it was right. It believed that if it ate those little fish it would get hurt. But it turned out that it was dead wrong.

When you're out to win there is only a temporary pleasure. When you are out to be right there are only consequences or no consequences. Either way you are not a better person, nor are you wiser from the experience on the other end.

Hi O,

No need to get analytical about it. It was just a old fashion side show debate. Of course I am right. Reality always win.

And please feed Pavlov's fishys.

As long as you remain the realm of right and wrong you will be "Pavlov's fish."

[Floatingaxe]

It was just a old fashion side show debate.

Just as I always thought. Get real, justaguy. Real with God. We aren't fooloing around, here.

[kat8585]

What about pedophiles? Are they born that way? Has anyone ever seen a reformed one?

[Floatingaxe]

What about pedophiles? Are they born that way? Has anyone ever seen a reformed one?

Unlike Gays, Pedophiles are criminals to society. With merit. They should be caught and castrated. I am sure they can't help themselves and have to be hidden to exploit their wishes. They are God's worse defect.

Pedophile are our problems. Gays are not. Serial killers are a problem. Abortionist are not.

Please stop being inflammatory. You are spewing demonic views. Not here, please. Out on the street corner where it belongs...

[MeCajunboy]

I offer Timothy

"I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent."

Like that? And quit implying I'm gay. I forbid it.

Correction here! God did not say that "women were not allowed to TEACH." A mother teaches her children the Word of God every waking day that she is with them! God did however make mention that a woman should not preach from the pulpit. It's a pity your knowledge of God and HIS word is not as large as your ego! If it were, may I recommend a "deflation" process!