Getting rid of my secular music...

[RGR]

Long live the blueberry!

[nebula]

the song is about realizing a peaceful harmony between mankind TODAY - not just hoping for it in the future. my heart was breaking as i read people's criticisms of it. it's one of those timeless songs that touches me every time i hear it with both its intent and execution (the chord changes in the chorus between lines give me shivers, especially to play). the whole message comes down to this - what if we just had this life, and no other, to live? what if there was nothing but today, and each other? what would the world be like if everyone could put down their guns and just be with each other? it's idealistic and wistful and moving in its own quietly powerful way.

I can understand someone feeling this way who doesn't know Jesus.

Do you know Jesus, georgesbluegirl? Have you been infilled with His Spirit?

3) 40 years ago today (well, yesterday...it's after midnight here), lennon made his famous remarks about the beatles being "bigger than jesus christ."

Audio Adreniline wrote a song in response to that statement:

Never gonna be as big as Jesus

never gonna hold the world in my hand

never gonna be as big as Jesus

never gonna build a promised land

but that's alright with me

I could build a tower to heaven

get on top and touch the sky

I could write a million songs

all designed to glorify

I could be about as good

good as any human could

but that won't get me by

"In this world you will have trouble, but be of good cheer for I have overcome the world." ~Jesus

[LadyRaven]

:rofl::rofl:

[RGR]

:rofl::rofl:

Oh no, this is soooo not right. I tried to put this many laughies in a post and was told this amount was not "authorised" and now here you are. Ronald must be the teacher's pet.

[georgesbluegirl]

nebula: yes. i am a christian. i can be a christian and understand and love "imagine." the song isn't even actually saying that god does not exist, nor even that heaven doesn't exist - it merely asks us to suppose, to think about living life NOW, in peace, and what might be possible in a world of love. but if a message of friendship, peace and love is not christian, than neither am i, i guess.

[nebula]

nebula: yes. i am a christian. i can be a christian and understand and love "imagine." the song isn't even actually saying that god does not exist, nor even that heaven doesn't exist - it merely asks us to suppose, to think about living life NOW, in peace, and what might be possible in a world of love. but if a message of friendship, peace and love is not christian, than neither am i, i guess.

Please forgive me -

I truly am trying to just understand.

But why would you want to imagine Heaven not existing?

I'm not against wishing for peace on Earth. I am however uncomfortable with a premise that asks me to imagine life from the perspective of an atheist - which to me, "Imagine there's no Heaven," means.

[RGR]

I'm sure Lennon meant well in what he wrote, but he was far off the mark. You're never going to have peace and happiness in this world without Christ. Look at Adam and Eve; they had the perfect environment and look at what happened.

[georgesbluegirl]

because imagining theres no heaven is a kind of liberation - just a what if. what if all i had were the next few decades to exist, to fall in love, to learn and see? how much more would you be required to treasure life? in the end, that's all the song wants us to do - to value life as if we only had tomorrow. that is a kind of "uncomfortable" notion to begin with, i agree - but when you really embrace it, it's beautiful. i think it's absolutely humbling to value life that way - as if there was no heaven promised - as a christian. wouldn't it remind you of the phenomenal gift that life - at all - is? wouldnt you then thank God for every day?

[nebula]

because imagining theres no heaven is a kind of liberation -

I am sorry. I just am not getting it.

If there is no Heaven, then Jesus lied.

I see nothing liberating in this notion.

And if this life is all there is? I've had a painful life. If this life is all there is, I would rather check out of it ASAP.

[RGR]

because imagining theres no heaven is a kind of liberation -

I am sorry. I just am not getting it.

If there is no Heaven, then Jesus lied.

I see nothing liberating in this notion.

And if this life is all there is? I've had a painful life. If this life is all there is, I would rather check out of it ASAP.

Well spoken, sis! For me, the thought of no Heaven doesn't liberate me. That is what keeps me going, to know that there is a righteous Judge Who will take up my cause and Who has prepared a place to be with Him! I agree with Neb-if this is all there is, I don't want it!