Once Saved Always Saved

[Guest loveroftruth]

I personally disagree to belief that Once you saved you are always saved like what many BC preaches. It is clearly mentioned in Heb 6:4-6 that

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

and Heb 10:26

Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

that's why I am striving to follow Christ's commandments

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

[RGR]

Aren't you spreading yourself thin with all of these topics? This one has been discussed ad nauseum and will do no good to be rehashed again!

[Guest loveroftruth]

Aren't you spreading yourself thin with all of these topics? This one has been discussed ad nauseum and will do no good to be rehashed again!

When? I am new here.....and where is ad nuseum???

[ayin jade]

By your verses, committing one sin after you are saved condemns you to hell, without any chance of redemption.

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Have you sinned? Do you sin now?

1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

If we sin after we are saved, there is forgiveness still. We do not lose our salvation.

1Jo 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

And here, the Apostle Paul states that he wars within himself, doing the things that are evil, sinful, that he doesnt want to do. And yet, he is saved by the grace of God. We still sin after we are saved. We are not perfect. Sinlessness is not possible.

Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

I strive to follow the Lord and do as He wishes. I know myself as a sinner who falls short...a lot. I am saved by His mercy, His grace.

[Guest loveroftruth]

By your verses, committing one sin after you are saved condemns you to hell, without any chance of redemption.

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Have you sinned? Do you sin now?

1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1Jo 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

If we sin after we are saved, there is forgiveness still. We do not lose our salvation.

1Jo 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

And here, the Apostle Paul states that he wars within himself, doing the things that are evil, sinful, that he doesnt want to do. And yet, he is saved by the grace of God. We still sin after we are saved. We are not perfect. Sinlessness is not possible.

Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

I strive to follow the Lord and do as He wishes. I know myself as a sinner who falls short...a lot. I am saved by His mercy, His grace.

AJ, Do you know that not all sins are the same? Even if we are saved we can still commit mistakes as mentioned in

Ecc 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

All of us can commit sin but NOT ALL SINS are the same....In James 1:14-15

Jam 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

Jam 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

There are sins which cannot be forgiven...

1Jo 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

1Jo 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

[ayin jade]

There are sins which cannot be forgiven...

Which sins? My bible says there is only one unforgivable sin.

Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

[Guest loveroftruth]

There are sins which cannot be forgiven...

Which sins? My bible says there is only one unforgivable sin.

Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

Here is another my dear...

Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

If we sin WILLFULLY after that we have received the knowledge of the truth....that's why I believe that any sin that we commit willfully will endangered our salvation.

[ayin jade]

You have not explained away my verse. Jesus Himself said the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Yet you claim more. Does that mean you do not take Jesus at His word?

[Guest loveroftruth]

You have not explained away my verse. Jesus Himself said the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Yet you claim more. Does that mean you do not take Jesus at His word?

AJ, Jesus Christ NEVER mentioned in that verse that Blasphemy is THE ONLY SIN THAT CANNOT BE FORGIVEN!

[ayin jade]

You have not explained away my verse. Jesus Himself said the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Yet you claim more. Does that mean you do not take Jesus at His word?

AJ, Jesus Christ NEVER mentioned in that verse that Blasphemy is THE ONLY SIN THAT CANNOT BE FORGIVEN!

No? Lets look again.

Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

All sins shall be forgiven except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Pray tell, what does the word "all" mean to you?