Spiritual cultivation equals God

[Floatingaxe]

We are to be filling our minds with God and His goodness and His Word. His Word is Jesus Christ. Praise Him. worship Him. Live for Him. All this mind-emptying and navel-gazing is not of God in the least.

You are buying into eastern religions and they are doctrines of demons. There is no way you can successfully defend them here on a Christian forum.

[Manji]

1. Life means suffering.

While life is not always a bed of roses--it is not meant to be one of suffering when you come to Christ...in Jesus we are reconciled to God. With Jesus, we have His authority over the devil.

John 10:10

The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

2. The origin of suffering is attachment

The only thing we are attached to is the world and self. The world system is Satan's realm. Without Christ, we have no hope of overcoming that pull on our lives.

3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.

What you wrote is not true in the least. That is erroneous and of the devil. There is no truth to your statement that suffering can be eradicated through human activity. Nothing man can do can alleviate it, or erase it. The only way out of suffering is by Jesus Christ and you have completely negated His atoning sacrifice! You are propogating a lie from Hell.

attaining happiness by understanding the nature of all things can cause an experience of happiness so great that you know it is the love of God

There is no happiness apart from knowing Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God.

These teachings I recited here have been around approximately 500 years before the coming of Christ. I guess I'll just have to learn about Christ to understand how to find freedom from suffering is attained in very exact detail. I mean, the Dharma teaches about mindfulness of the five hinderances like, sensual desire, ill will, sloth/torpour, restlessness, and doubt. I need to understand more about how does Christ take away your suffering. I mean, we as humans gotta do something and if that means allowing Jesus to take over how do we do that then?

Well, is Yoga practice wrong?

[ayin jade]

But the desire to give up is there and suffering just drains me and goes on. I wonder, how am I gonna live life from here on? How am I gonna survive?

1 Corinthians 10: 13 No temptation has taken you but what is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted above what you are able, but with the temptation also will make a way to escape, so that you may be able to bear it .

Philippians 4: 13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

Jude 1:20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,

21 keep yourselves in the love of God, eagerly awaiting the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to everlasting life.

The ideas and concepts were so interesting that I searched for a Buddhist forum and then found these audios of this Buddhist teacher.

1Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from every appearance of evil

1Jo 5:21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols. Amen.

1Co 10:14 Therefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

1. Life means suffering.

2. The origin of suffering is attachment.

3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.

And this is seen where in scripture? This is false teaching from a false religion. This is the danger to you from practicing this meditation from Buddhism.

[Floatingaxe]

1. Life means suffering.

While life is not always a bed of roses--it is not meant to be one of suffering when you come to Christ...in Jesus we are reconciled to God. With Jesus, we have His authority over the devil.

John 10:10

The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

2. The origin of suffering is attachment

The only thing we are attached to is the world and self. The world system is Satan's realm. Without Christ, we have no hope of overcoming that pull on our lives.

3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.

What you wrote is not true in the least. That is erroneous and of the devil. There is no truth to your statement that suffering can be eradicated through human activity. Nothing man can do can alleviate it, or erase it. The only way out of suffering is by Jesus Christ and you have completely negated His atoning sacrifice! You are propogating a lie from Hell.

attaining happiness by understanding the nature of all things can cause an experience of happiness so great that you know it is the love of God

There is no happiness apart from knowing Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God.

These teachings I recited here have been around approximately 500 years before the coming of Christ. I guess I'll just have to learn about Christ to understand how to find freedom from suffering is attained in very exact detail. I mean, the Dharma teaches about mindfulness of the five hinderances like, sensual desire, ill will, sloth/torpour, restlessness, and doubt. I need to understand more about how does Christ take away your suffering. I mean, we as humans gotta do something and if that means allowing Jesus to take over how do we do that then?

Well, is Yoga practice wrong?

All the answers you are seeking are found in the Word of God. Read it, Manji, and obey it. You will overcome! I guarantee it!

Yoga is an eastern religion doctrine or practice, and as it denies Jesus Christ, then it is heresy. So of course it is wrong to practice it or believe in it.

[Floatingaxe]

Ephesians 4:14-16

Then we will no longer be like children, forever changing our minds about what we believe because someone has told us something different or because someone has cleverly lied to us and made the lie sound like the truth. Instead, we will hold to the truth in love, becoming more and more in every way like Christ, who is the head of his body, the church. Under his direction, the whole body is fitted together perfectly. As each part does its own special work, it helps the other parts grow, so that the whole body is healthy and growing and full of love.

1 Tomothy 4:1-8

1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

6If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed. 7Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives' tales; rather, train yourself to be godly. 8For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come.

Same thing, paraphrased:

1-5The Spirit makes it clear that as time goes on, some are going to give up on the faith and chase after demonic illusions put forth by professional liars. These liars have lied so well and for so long that they've lost their capacity for truth. They will tell you not to get married. They'll tell you not to eat this or that food

[ayin jade]

I guess I'll just have to learn about Christ to understand how to find freedom from suffering is attained in very exact detail.

Jesus told us that we would suffer here since as Christians we are no longer of this world and the world would hate us. Look at the lives of the early Christians and how they were killed, tortured etc. Look at the lives of Christians in areas where they are under heavy persecution.

I mean, the Dharma teaches about mindfulness of the five hinderances like....

This is a false teaching from a false religion. Manji one cannot follow this and follow the Lord too. You must turn away from this.

Phi 4:8 Finally, my brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are right, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue and if there is any praise, think on these things.

False teachings are not good, no matter how attractive they are.

Well, is Yoga practice wrong?

I have spent a lot of time with this question. Ive been told Tai Chi would greatly help my pain and stiffness. Ive spent a lot of time considering whether or not I should do it and ease my pain. Yet I cant do it. The foundation for these practices comes from the philosophy and belief systems of other religions. Something in me will not let me take that up. I believe that is the Holy Spirit convicting me, telling me these things are bad.

I believe, especially in your case since you are easily swayed by these teachings, that it is wrong to practice yoga.

[Manji]

But the desire to give up is there and suffering just drains me and goes on. I wonder, how am I gonna live life from here on? How am I gonna survive?

1 Corinthians 10: 13 No temptation has taken you but what is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted above what you are able, but with the temptation also will make a way to escape, so that you may be able to bear it .

Philippians 4: 13 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

Jude 1:20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,

21 keep yourselves in the love of God, eagerly awaiting the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to everlasting life.

The ideas and concepts were so interesting that I searched for a Buddhist forum and then found these audios of this Buddhist teacher.

1Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from every appearance of evil

1Jo 5:21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols. Amen.

1Co 10:14 Therefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

1. Life means suffering.

2. The origin of suffering is attachment.

3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.

And this is seen where in scripture? This is false teaching from a false religion. This is the danger to you from practicing this meditation from Buddhism.

[ayin jade]

You need to focus on the Lord only. You are following false teachings. Im sorry you do not see that Manji.

2Ti 4:3 For a time will be when they will not endure sound doctrine, but they will heap up teachers to themselves according to their own lusts, tickling the ear.

2Ti 4:4 And they will turn away their ears from the truth and will be turned to myths.

[Floatingaxe]

You experience joy by knowing the Lord Jesus Christ in a personal way. He is alive, you know. You come to God by asking Him to forgive you through His son, Jesus' blood that was shed for you. Ask Jesus to forgive you and come and live His life inside you! He will come and live in you and teach you all about how to live righteously. It isn't always an easy life to live, but it is worth every minute!

When you know Jesus personally, you have His joy in you! He gives us His peace, His love for others, and He gives you purpose!

John 3:16-18

"This is how much God loved the world: He gave his Son, his one and only Son. And this is why: so that no one need be destroyed; by believing in him, anyone can have a whole and lasting life. God didn't go to all the trouble of sending his Son merely to point an accusing finger, telling the world how bad it was. He came to help, to put the world right again. Anyone who trusts in him is acquitted; anyone who refuses to trust him has long since been under the death sentence without knowing it. And why? Because of that person's failure to believe in the one-of-a-kind Son of God when introduced to him."

[Manji]

I guess I'll just have to learn about Christ to understand how to find freedom from suffering is attained in very exact detail.

Jesus told us that we would suffer here since as Christians we are no longer of this world and the world would hate us. Look at the lives of the early Christians and how they were killed, tortured etc. Look at the lives of Christians in areas where they are under heavy persecution.

I mean, the Dharma teaches about mindfulness of the five hinderances like....

This is a false teaching from a false religion. Manji one cannot follow this and follow the Lord too. You must turn away from this.

Phi 4:8 Finally, my brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are right, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue and if there is any praise, think on these things.

False teachings are not good, no matter how attractive they are.

Well, is Yoga practice wrong?

I have spent a lot of time with this question. Ive been told Tai Chi would greatly help my pain and stiffness. Ive spent a lot of time considering whether or not I should do it and ease my pain. Yet I cant do it. The foundation for these practices comes from the philosophy and belief systems of other religions. Something in me will not let me take that up. I believe that is the Holy Spirit convicting me, telling me these things are bad.

I believe, especially in your case since you are easily swayed by these teachings, that it is wrong to practice yoga.

That's not what I mean by suffering. I am talking about Human suffering. Please go back and read what it says.

It is not a religion. It is a philosphy.

Although there is Daoist philosophy explained about tai chi. Does that make the practice of that excercise make it wrong? That's really sad. I mean, thinking this way prevents you from being happy. I mean, the Bible does talk about takeing care of the body although we should be more concerned about our spirit than the flesh, I think the Bible also says to take care of your body. Who cares about the philosophy. If the body benefits by all means do. It doesn't go against your religion.