Dinosaurs

[KeilanS]

I wanted the Christian view on this, whats up with the dinos?

They were obviously on this planet at one point, and the earth isn't several bajillion years old, so whats your theory on them?

[ted]

I think they must have been really big.

And vicious, and stuff.

t.

[ayin jade]

Read this and tell me the names of the creatures described.

Job 40

15 Now behold behemoth, which I made along with you; he eats grass like an ox;

16 see, now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the muscles of his belly.

17 He hangs his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together.

18 His bones are like tubes of bronze; his bones are like bars of iron.

19 He is the first of the ways of God; his Maker brings near his sword.

20 For the mountains yield food for him, and all the beasts of the field play there.

21 He lies under the lotus, in the hiding place of the reed and the marsh.

22 The lotus trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook surround him.

23 Behold, though a flood presses, he does not run away; he feels safe even if Jordan swells up to his mouth.

24 Shall any take him before his eyes, or pierce through his nose with cords?

Job 41

1 Can you draw out the leviathan with a hook, or hold down his tongue with a cord?

2 Can you put a reed rope into his nose, or pierce his jaw with a thorn?

3 Will he multiply pleas for help to you? Will he speak soft words to you?

4 Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him for a servant for ever?

5 Will you play with him as with a bird? Or will you bind him for your maidens?

6 Shall your companions bargain over him? Shall they divide him among the merchants?

7 Can you fill his skin with barbed irons, or his head with fishing spears?

8 Lay your hand on him, think of the battle; you will never do it again.

9 Behold, his hope has been made false; will not one be cast down at the sight of him?

10 None is so fierce as to dare to stir him up; who then is able to stand before Me?

11 Who has gone before Me that I should repay? All that is the heavens is Mine.

12 I will not keep silent concerning his limbs, or his mighty strength, or the grace of his frame.

13 Who can take off the surface of his skin; who can come to him with his double bridle?

14 Who can open the doors to his face? Terror is round about his teeth.

15 The rows of shields are his pride, shut up with a close seal;

16 one is so near to another that no air can come between them;

17 they are joined one to another, they clasp each other so that they can not be separated.

18 His sneezings flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the dawn.

19 Out of his mouth go burning torches, sparks of fire leap out.

20 Out of his nostrils goes smoke, as out of a boiling pot fired by reeds.

21 His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth.

22 In his neck remains strength, and terror dances before him.

23 The folds of his flesh are joined together, cast firm on him; he cannot be moved.

24 His heart is cast hard as a stone, even cast hard as a piece of a riding millstone.

25 The mighty are afraid from his rising; they are beside themselves from the crashing.

26 The sword overtakes him, but will not hold firm. The spear, the dart, and the javelin also .

27 He counts iron as straw, bronze as rotten wood.

28 An arrow cannot make him flee; slingstones are turned by him into stubble.

29 Darts are counted as straw; he laughs at the shaking of a javelin.

30 Points of potsherds are under him; he spreads sharp pointed marks on the mire.

31 He makes the deep boil like a pot; he makes the sea like a pot of ointment.

32 He makes a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be gray-headed.

33 On earth there is nothing like him, one made without fear.

34 He beholds all high things ; he is a king over all the sons of pride.

[KeilanS]

I think they must have been really big.

And vicious, and stuff.

t.

LIES! HORRIBLE LIES!!!

We caught one!

[KeilanS]

Ayin Jade, those are the verses I had in mind posting this. Thats my reasoning that dinosaurs must have existed, I believe the bible there is talking about dinosaurs.

However, I was looking for the science behind that. I believe that science and the bible DO match up, the scientists just don't know that yet

Anyways, I've watched some seminars by a guy named Kent Hovind, and I think he's on the right track. His theory was that dinosaurs died out after the flood because the air was less dense. He thought that the flood water (or some of it) came from a sphere of ice around the earth, and after that sphere was gone, the air spread out and the dinosaurs suffocated....

[apothanein kerdos]

I wanted the Christian view on this, whats up with the dinos?

They were obviously on this planet at one point, and the earth isn't several bajillion years old, so whats your theory on them?

That the earth is several billions years old and they existed prior to man.

I'm no theistic evolutionist, but I am certainly an old earth creationist.

[Floatingaxe]

I think they must have been really big.

And vicious, and stuff.

t.

LIES! HORRIBLE LIES!!!

We caught one!

[KeilanS]

I wanted the Christian view on this, whats up with the dinos?

They were obviously on this planet at one point, and the earth isn't several bajillion years old, so whats your theory on them?

That the earth is several billions years old and they existed prior to man.

I'm no theistic evolutionist, but I am certainly an old earth creationist.

Hmm, question for you then AK.

I've been told that the Sahara Desert as well as the Great Barrier Reef have been shown to both be a bit over 6000 years old (by measuring the speed at which they expand). So when do you believe the flood occured? I'm thinking those facts point to about 6000 years ago.

Also, if you're not a theistic evolutionist... why do you think the earth is billions of years old? Most people who believe that also seem to believe humans evolved from monkey (except they say that it was God that caused it)... and can I assume that you believe the biblical days to be "long periods of time" rather than a modern day?

[nebula]

Question back at you, Keilan.

The Shenandoah Mts. (eastern side of Appalachians in Virginia, USA) do not have marine fossils in them.

If marine fossils in mountians were the result of the flood, why are there no marine fossils in these?

[KeilanS]

Question back at you, Keilan.

The Shenandoah Mts. (eastern side of Appalachians in Virginia, USA) do not have marine fossils in them.

If marine fossils in mountians were the result of the flood, why are there no marine fossils in these?

I have absolutely no idea, if there was no flood, how come there are marine floods in other mountains? I really don't know, perhaps something was different in those mountains, different climate or something, I'm not sure. There must have been a flood, if there hadn't been, the coral reef would be much much bigger (why only 6000 years growth?). I don't know all the answers, thats why I posted this