pastors and vacations

October 30, 2003

this is a question being rolled around at my church, my pastor has taken 7 vacations in 1 year would any of yas consider this excessive? leats hear opinions please

October 30, 2003

plus it seems when the main pastor is gone it brings out the worse in everyone people take it upon themselves to render opinons instead of them comming from the pastor, and i wasnt clear on one thing hes had more than 7 weeks of vacation time hes normally gone for 2 weeks a shot, he was taken this last time on a cruise by another church member and that was nice of the member but what would have been even nicer would have been if the member had taken a poor person on the cruise instead of a pastor that makes 47k a year plus a generous expense account

October 30, 2003

i would like to add that all these vacations and stuff are between my pastor and God if its excessive it bothers me some but hey what can ya do? i was just asking for opinoins because i guess the elders are wating for him to return saturday to have a meeting with him on the subject and i would add my pastor is a good man very good just makes some strange choices

October 30, 2003

here in small town america 47 k is big time most hard jobs here pay 20k a year if your lucky, the church gives my pastor all his cars there not mercedes but are nice none the less

October 30, 2003

i am happy to serve in my church as youth leader i also drive the van to pick up kids and elderly i clean the church i do the sound and my youth ministy dont sstop on the one night my home and e-mail is open to them so its a 24 hr job and i do anything else i am asked and i have never asked a penny of the church but others come in and want paid for everything right down to the praise and worship music ect., what ever happened to volunteering for the lord? and when some volunteer the consider it a tithe and i dont agree with that

October 30, 2003

my kids do work for pizza n pop most of the time, i was meaning the adults expect cash for any and everything.........or PW team that just left only worked for cash and we have a fine team that worked for nothing and was much better

endure4salvation · October 30, 2003

It is totally between them and God.

It is none of our business--we don't know what pastors go through on a daily basis.

They will be judged a whole lot more stricly then you or I (James 3:1).

They will be judged for sure......mind your own business is my opinion.

ColleenLovesMischief · October 30, 2003

It was only a question being asked, and instead of minding our own business shouldn't we be concerned that our shepherd is never there to take care of the problems arising in his flock? Someone else gets left in charge, but if you take a problem to them they tell you to take it to the pastor when he gets back. I go to the same church as Gladiator. This pastor comes in when he wants (no job other than being a pastor). A very comfy salery (yet we are short on money to run gas for our van ministry). Our youth have no money in our account. We make the sacrifices and can barely afford our bills at home. If it weren't for donations we get for the kids the youth would have gone under by now. Then we have trouble with some adults while the pastor is gone and have to wait to talk to him to handle them because the ones left in charge will not handle anything. By the time the pastor gets back we are told that it doesn't matter cause it happend too long ago. Should we mind our own business when it affects the congragation?

traveller · October 30, 2003

Don't you have elders or deacons that the pastor answers to? Have you gone to them with your requests?

ColleenLovesMischief · October 30, 2003

Yes traveller, and it always seems to go back to the pastor. There was one incident where my in laws were giving an offereing out of an inheritance and wanted to designate it to different ministries in the church such as teens and the arts, and the pastor insisted that they put it in the general fund. About the elders. We had an incident with our teens a couple years ago when we lost our building for the teens. A couple elders came there and prayed with us and told us if there was anything they could do to help us with the kids they would. 2 days before it had already been decided to shut us down. Funny note the pastor decided it before he went on vacation then we were decieved by a couple elders. He wouldn't tell us we were closed down until the next week when it came time for youth. The building we were in had been sold by our church once, and donated back to us strictly for use by the youth. They sold the building for a second time (old church building) to a woman who lived down the street and wanted them gone when it was only a church. Sold to satan basically.