The True Crucifixion

[Scarletprayers]

Okay, I get cha! Well He was also fully man, or what He did on the cross wouldn't have meant anything. So no fake pain.

[Joshua-777]

If you put Jesus as a god perspective, of course anything will work. Except why fake pain?

Hebrews 2:14-17

14 Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16 For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham. 17 Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.

He did suffer the pain, and he did live life in the likeness of our flesh, He felt the pain, why? through death he destroyed the power of death, which is Satan. He died so you can have life through him. He did suffer, he did feel the pain, he faked nothing.

[Joshua-777]

Welcome back josh

thanks, I've been busy like crazy the last few days, lol Bout time I get back on worthy!

[Joshua-777]

Okay, I get cha! Well He was also fully man, or what He did on the cross wouldn't have meant anything. So no fake pain.

Well if he was fully man then it doesn't make since how he can have the GOD all knowing effect. The pain and all knowing is all tied into the brain. He certainly can know how to mask pain as a human like the Navy Seals are taught. That is if he was all knowing. And then augmented with the God all knowing and !woolaa! No pain.

This post is based on the assumption of God not feeling pain, Does God feel pain? Yes, he has, and he does.

Ecclesiastes 1:18

For in much wisdom is much grief,

And he who increaces knowledge inscreases sorrow.

Now according to that verse, if God is all knowing than he must feel extreem sorrow, as far as Jesus feeling pain on the cross, he has flesh, flesh has nerves, the pain is there. Jesus felt pain, he felt sorrow, extreem, more extreem than what we would ever feel, He is called the man of sorrows in Isaiah 53. He did take the pain, and by his own free will.

[MorningGlory]

You expected MORE from Jesus? He didn't commit suicide, my friend, He took the worst possible torture and execution for YOU, so that you could be absolved of sin and acceptable to God.

I remember reading about a person's limbs being tied by four horses taking off in different directions. Or buried in a hole except your head, in the blazing sun, with honey poured over you. Or locked in a cage with no food until you starve to death. Maybe we should ask our Vietnam brothers who were prisoners.

Before advancing into Jerusalem, what you are saying is Jesus didn't know he was going to be crucified?

Of course He knew! He was offered up as a sacrifice; He didn't commit suicide. I would have to assume that crucifixtion was the worst and most humilitating form of execution meted out by the Romans. Do you mean that His execution wasn't horrible enough for you or that He somehow falls short? I guess I don't understand the point you're trying to make here.

[Guest lnj]

Religion, and mankind may be terribly flawed

[Grace1479]

Religion, and mankind may be terribly flawed

[radames422]

I truly believe that in the Roman Times, in that culture and age, people were so much more tough and stronger than we are in this day and age. We, as Americans, are so lazy. Sure, we have intelligence, but each decade it just makes us lazier and weaker. Look at the ancient times war movies like Gladiator, Troy, Lord of the Rings, etc., people do everything with their hands, carrying, walking, in heat, in cold, through storms, up mountains, through canyons, rivers, and everything that we would call "roughing it." Our version of "roughing it" would be a vacation for them. That is why we can't even fathom the pain, agony, and sacrifice of Christ. We have been trained to be lazy and weak by this society and what is viewed as coshure or marketable by Hollywood.

[radames422]

I truly believe that in the Roman Times, in that culture and age, people were so much more tough and stronger than we are in this day and age. We, as Americans, are so lazy. Sure, we have intelligence, but each decade it just makes us lazier and weaker. Look at the ancient times war movies like Gladiator, Troy, Lord of the Rings, etc., people do everything with their hands, carrying, walking, in heat, in cold, through storms, up mountains, through canyons, rivers, and everything that we would call "roughing it." Our version of "roughing it" would be a vacation for them. That is why we can't even fathom the pain, agony, and sacrifice of Christ. We have been trained to be lazy and weak by this society and what is viewed as coshure or marketable by Hollywood.

[radames422]

I truly believe that in the Roman Times, in that culture and age, people were so much more tough and stronger than we are in this day and age. We, as Americans, are so lazy. Sure, we have intelligence, but each decade it just makes us lazier and weaker. Look at the ancient times war movies like Gladiator, Troy, Lord of the Rings, etc., people do everything with their hands, carrying, walking, in heat, in cold, through storms, up mountains, through canyons, rivers, and everything that we would call "roughing it." Our version of "roughing it" would be a vacation for them. That is why we can't even fathom the pain, agony, and sacrifice of Christ. We have been trained to be lazy and weak by this society and what is viewed as coshure or marketable by Hollywood. Think about it, even in the roughest of societies, they couldn't even fathom the pain, sacrifice, agony, and ridicule that Christ went through. What of us?