Prosperity Preaching

[Floatingaxe]

I want to prevent any more bashing of this man in Worthy. By doing so, I am preventing a seditious act, so thank me.

[Guest man]

I want to prevent any more bashing of this man in Worthy. By doing so, I am preventing a seditious act, so thank me.

Then PM me.

I promise....no one will ever know who this person is.

You have my word.

[LadyRaven]

I will not lend the name of the one I consider anointed, as I believe I would be party to someone taking an opportunity to bash. Sorry, no deal.

Blessings

If this person is truly anointed as you say....do you not want us to hear the truth?

As for the bashers....if this person is truly anointed....God will deal with them.

Isn't it our duty to spread the good news at every opportunity? To give Light to those who are lost?

If you know of someone who is truly anointed and you refuse to point us in the direction of that individual, are you not hiding the Gospel from those who could benefit from their teachings?

I don't understand your reasoning. Why would you want to keep the Truth hidden?

As I said...the scoffers will be dealt with.

God would not allow his annointed to teach error. Except for swaggart, the rest of them teach WOF, which is heresy. I'm not up to date on Swaggart's teachings after he repented of his affair/whateveryoucallit with the prostitute. This being the case, I hope that the one which is believed to be annointed is Swaggart.

If someone preaches error, we're supposed to stand against it, not just let it go by the wayside. It's not about them personally, it's about their doctrine and if it's heresy, it's heresy. If a man is preaching heresy the annointing, if he ever had one, has left. God does not preach, teach or "annoint" heresy.

[ayin jade]

If someone preaches error, we're supposed to stand against it, not just let it go by the wayside. It's not about them personally, it's about their doctrine and if it's heresy, it's heresy. If a man is preaching heresy the annointing, if he ever had one, has left. God does not preach, teach or "annoint" heresy.

[Rebmilc]

I will not lend the name of the one I consider anointed, as I believe I would be party to someone taking an opportunity to bash. Sorry, no deal.

Blessings

If the Church as we know it today, is to make any impact at all on a sick and dying world, then we MUST guard against any Spiritual fraud or financial dishonesty. This is not a matter of "Bashing" but is a matter of God's integrity and how we present that to the world.

I believe that God's word provides us with the spiritual equipment we need to combat fraud and deception within the church, that equipment is called "DISCERNMENT". The problem with many of the ministries mentioned is that they will happily talk about the 5-fold ministry gifts of which most of them claim to be recipients, but opperate any sort of spiritual discernment against their ministries and they cry "Touch not the Lord's annointed" (totally out of context because his annointed was Israel).

Hinn as gone as far as to say that if you criticize his ministry your children will die.

To God the end never justifies the means and we should all be mindfull of the fact that we are responsible to God for the proper handling of His finances. The simple truth of the matter is that the funds belong to him and God will take account of those who have squandered the faithfull giving of His people ON THEMSELVES.

As a matter of interest I added up the value of the Personal Jets alone of some of the ministers mentioned earlier, it came to $56 million dollars. Plus Cerullo's $50 million gulfstream jet, that comes to $106 million dollars total. Now copeland tells us that God wants him and his wife to have a jet each at $50 million dollars a piece, what a travesty on the gospel of Jesus Christ.

What many of these ministers don't make clear are the relationships with God of those who they say will be blessed if they give. The implication is that so long as you make a contribution nothing else matters, God will bless you anyway.

Simon the sorceror made the same mistake when he asked the Apostles in effect to ignore whatever was in his life and to sell him the blessing anyway.

We probably don't like to hear it but God's promises have prerequisites, and those who declare those promises are responsible for making the requirements clear.

God is not a universal casino owner. We cannot just enter His prescence, play the right card and then receive our winnings. He is a God of covenant relationship and His covenant requires more from us than just giving our finances.

Any Christian who believes that they can just send a certain amount of money to a ministry, continue to live as they please and then expect God to fill their wallet and purse is sadly deluded.

Someone said, "We have changed God's word from a love letter to a phone book. Just leaf through the pages, find what you need and claim it. (It helps if you can visualize it too, a totally occult principle)

God's word is a letter of covenant love that requires us to understand the promises within their context and to see the whole of our relationships with Him. Not just our immediate needs.

BEWARE OF MINISTRIES THAT PROMISE THE STARS WHILE HAVING NO KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR WALK. AND BEWARE OF MINISTERS WHO REQUEST YOUR FINANCES & THEN SPEND IT ON THEMSELVES".

Edited October 30, 2006 by Rebmilc

[sheya joie]

I will not lend the name of the one I consider anointed, as I believe I would be party to someone taking an opportunity to bash. Sorry, no deal.

Blessings

If the Church as we know it today, is to make any impact at all on a sick and dying world, then we MUST guard against any Spiritual fraud or financial dishonesty. This is not a matter of "Bashing" but is a matter of God's integrity and how we present that to the world.

I believe that God's word provides us with the spiritual equipment we need to combat fraud and deception within the church, that equipment is called "DISCERNMENT". The problem with many of the ministries mentioned is that they will happily talk about the 5-fold ministry gifts of which most of them claim to be recipients, but opperate any sort of spiritual discernment against their ministries and they cry "Touch not the Lord's annointed" (totally out of context because his annointed was Israel).

Hinn as gone as far as to say that if you criticize his ministry your children will die.

To God the end never justifies the means and we should all be mindfull of the fact that we are responsible to God for the proper handling of His finances. The simple truth of the matter is that the funds belong to him and God will take account of those who have squandered the faithfull giving of His people ON THEMSELVES.

As a matter of interest I added up the value of the Personal Jets of some of the ministers mentioned earlier, it came to $56 million dollars. Now copeland tells us that God wants him and his wife to have a jet each at $50 million dollars a piece, what a travesty on the gospel of Jesus Christ.

What many of these ministers don't make clear are the relationships with God of those who they say will be blessed if they give. The implication is that so long as you make a contribution nothing else matters, God will bless you anyway.

Simon the sorceror made the same mistake when he asked the Apostles in effect to ignore whatever was in his life and to sell him the blessing anyway.

We probably don't like to hear it but God's promises have prerequisites, and those who declare those promises are responsible for making the requirements clear.

God is not a universal casino owner. We cannot just enter His prescence, play the right card and then receive our winnings. He is a God of covenant relationship and His covenant requires more from us than just giving our finances.

Any Christian who believes that they can just send a certain amount of money to a ministry, continue to live as they please and then expect God to fill their wallet and purse is sadly deluded.

Someone said, "We have changed God's word from a love letter to a phone book. Just leaf through the pages, find what you need and claim it. (It helps if you can visualize it too, a totally occult principle)

God's word is a letter of covenant love that requires us to understand the promises within their context and to see the whole of our relationships with Him. Not just our immediate needs.

BEWARE OF MINISTRIES THAT PROMISE THE STARS WHILE HAVING NO KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR WALK. AND BEWARE OF MINISTERS WHO REQUEST YOUR FINANCES & THEN SPEND IT ON THEMSELVES".

Hear, hear!

[Rebmilc]

As an addition to what I posted earlier about the $106 Million dollars worth of jets owned by the mentioned ministries, I have taken the time to add up the value of their personal homes. This total comes to $46.7 million.

A grand total for Jets and homes alone of $202.7 million dollars.

I'm going out to get a job as a Tele -evangelist preaching prosperity.

Edited October 30, 2006 by Rebmilc