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Altho self-concocted "atheists" don't have a prayer, they DO have a god of their very own construction. It's called "Secular Humanism," man as god, an offshoot of Hinduism & its 360 gods of cows, monkeys, trees, rivers, hills, whatever. What these kind folk worship as god is, in reality, the VERY CREATION of the Creator God. Personally, I LOVE "atheism" because it comes across as on a par with transgendered bike messengers. Ignorance re God & creation is curable. Stupidity lasts forever though.

Biogenesis thoroughly debunks the fallacious Inert, Blind & Mindless god of "atheism." From nothing comes nothing. No chairs, no automobiles, no loved ones, no cliches, forsooth no enemies either. As soon as our "atheist" friend can produce, let us say, a Starbucks Expresso without a Starbucks or an expresso, zowie, we'd be en route at long last. The right for an "atheist" to be heard doesn't automatically guarantee the right to be taken seriously.

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what? no. that sounds like mindless babble. thats not what atheism is about at all. we don't praise ourselves or the things around us, if anything we praise science, knowledge, and the on going understanding of our universe. I understand having a more profound respect for everything around us, but I feel that stamping God onto everything is an archaic bandade of an answer to something that frankly doesn't have an answer. I hate it when people try to translate atheism to have any theist connections.


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*holds head in hands*

It looks like we have diverged so far from topic that this thread is almost salvageable.

I guess I have learned to post on a day where I don't have to work and can spend more time paying attention. Oh well... it is just too pad I can't start this over and give it another try.

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Funny comment, Leonard! :noidea:

Bottom line is: Atheists are not scary, but they do make me sad, as God's signature is everywhere and they refuse to read it.

as an atheist i must disagree. Atheism, being based on knowledge and research, would be incomplete if the "works of God" we're not adding into the equation. Yet, the conclusion is still "God, no thank you"

Huh? :oWould be incomplete? So, you say that atheism is a complete and utter perfection? Without God muddying up your elaborate concoctions of "truth" you would be without opposition?

First, I didn't intend the qoute "works of God" to be taken as literal. I ment that most atheist have read scripture, the bible, ect. Which means atheist don't "refused to read it," but have absorbed atleast the general education of the christian literature and preaching, to which they found it very and highly improbable.

Wasn't talking about the Bible---I was referring to the fact that God's hand is visible in all things! His signature is on everything.


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Funny comment, Leonard! :noidea:

Bottom line is: Atheists are not scary, but they do make me sad, as God's signature is everywhere and they refuse to read it.

as an atheist i must disagree. Atheism, being based on knowledge and research, would be incomplete if the "works of God" we're not adding into the equation. Yet, the conclusion is still "God, no thank you"

Huh? :oWould be incomplete? So, you say that atheism is a complete and utter perfection? Without God muddying up your elaborate concoctions of "truth" you would be without opposition?

First, I didn't intend the qoute "works of God" to be taken as literal. I ment that most atheist have read scripture, the bible, ect. Which means atheist don't "refused to read it," but have absorbed atleast the general education of the christian literature and preaching, to which they found it very and highly improbable.

Wasn't talking about the Bible---I was referring to the fact that God's hand is visible in all things! His signature is on everything.

I was referring to that as well


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*holds head in hands*

It looks like we have diverged so far from topic that this thread is almost salvageable.

I guess I have learned to post on a day where I don't have to work and can spend more time paying attention. Oh well... it is just too pad I can't start this over and give it another try.

aw Im sorry they have ruined your thread.

OK peoples all those of you who are not listening nor sticking to the beginning topic will you please go back and read the OP and don't post unless it is in direct answer to it?


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What is it about atheism or the atheist that you find frightening or damaging to society?

It scares me to think of atheists going to Hell.

It scares me to think of atheists trying to make my kids think there's no God.

Most atheists that I've encountered don't believe in moral absolutes. I don't believe this anything-goes mentality is good for society. If there are no absolutes, where is the line drawn?


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aw Im sorry they have ruined your thread.

OK peoples all those of you who are not listening nor sticking to the beginning topic will you please go back and read the OP and don't post unless it is in direct answer to it?

Thanks! :noidea:


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*holds head in hands*

It looks like we have diverged so far from topic that this thread is almost salvageable.

I guess I have learned to post on a day where I don't have to work and can spend more time paying attention. Oh well... it is just too pad I can't start this over and give it another try.

I asked for the Mods to split off the "hijack posts" so this discussion can go where you intended it to.

OK?


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Most atheists that I've encountered don't believe in moral absolutes. I don't believe this anything-goes mentality is good for society. If there are no absolutes, where is the line drawn?

Most philosophers in general do not believe in moral absolutes. Please see all major ethical theories (even the ones that fail)

Egoism, Conventionalism, Utilitarianism and Kantianism.

The problems with moral absolutism is that there always seems to be a case for which an absolute rule should not apply.

Since beings will have free will, there is still no authority that can possibly apply absolutely whether religion is involved or not. I feel we are in even more danger by observing laws absolutely than carefully accessing them when a specific situation is encountered. Even if one believes in God and is told directly what action to take, that person can decide not to participate.

Because of this, moral decisions are still left up to the decision maker. I tend to be much more confident in someone who carefully evaluates a situation rather than trying to trying to apply any absolute rule.

For the record, I would like to add that I care very much for my fellow persons and choose to be good for goodness sake. ...not because of the fear of damnation or the promise of heaven.

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