Sabbath on saturday or sunday?

[Vickilynn]

Don't suppose that I came to do away with the Law and the propeths. I did not come to do away with them, but to give them their full meaning. Heaven and earth may disappear. But I promise you that not even a period or comma will ever disappear from the Law. Everything written in it must happen.

If you reject even the least important command in the Law and teach others to do the same, you will be the least important person in the kingdom of heaven. But if you obey and teach others its commands, you will have an important place in the kingdom. You must obey God's commands better than the pharisees and the teachers of the Law obey them. If you don't, I promise you that you will never get into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5.17,18,19,20)

So, when your God tells you to obey the 10 commandments, you don't question it, you just do it.

Saturday or Sunday? I realy think that it doesn't matter which day it is. Unless you realy have to work all seven days, give one day to god. And if you do have to work all seven days, don't worry, God will understand.

I hope this helps, God bless you.

Shalom!!!

Hey there, WELCOME TO WORTHY!!!!!!!!!!

I agree SOME of your post, but may we talk about the 2nd part right now since it pertains to the Sabbath?

Saturday or Sunday? I realy think that it doesn't matter which day it is. Unless you realy have to work all seven days, give one day to god. And if you do have to work all seven days, don't worry, God will understand.

You posted that we are to follow G-d's Law, correct.

Well, what day is the Sabbath in the Scriptures? It is Saturday. And it starts on Friday night at sundown and goes until Saturday night at sundown.

G-d has never changed this. So, yes, it matters what day the SABBATH is on.

However, my stand is that we are to gather every day with the saints and worship as Christians. That is no way conflicts with the Sabbath (which is on Saturday) and it follows the NT examples of the Early Church.

However, we are not to work 7 days, at least we shouldn't. I don't believe it is SIN to work 7 days, but I believe the L-rd wants us to take the Sabbath and not work. And on that Sabbath, we are rest and separate that day and devote ourselves to honoring Him. Of course, it is lawful to work 7 days a week, but is it good? No!

G-d said we are to rest. There are spiritual AND physical reasons for that. We are to do ALL things to the glory of G-d. Is working 7 days a week doing that? No, it's not.

1 Corinthians 10

22 Shall we provoke the Lord to jealousy?Are we stronger than he?

23"All things are lawful," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful," but not all things build up. 24Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor.

[Scarletprayers]

Don't suppose that I came to do away with the Law and the propeths. I did not come to do away with them, but to give them their full meaning. Heaven and earth may disappear. But I promise you that not even a period or comma will ever disappear from the Law. Everything written in it must happen.

If you reject even the least important command in the Law and teach others to do the same, you will be the least important person in the kingdom of heaven. But if you obey and teach others its commands, you will have an important place in the kingdom. You must obey God's commands better than the pharisees and the teachers of the Law obey them. If you don't, I promise you that you will never get into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5.17,18,19,20)

So, when your God tells you to obey the 10 commandments, you don't question it, you just do it.

Saturday or Sunday? I realy think that it doesn't matter which day it is. Unless you realy have to work all seven days, give one day to god. And if you do have to work all seven days, don't worry, God will understand.

I hope this helps, God bless you.

Shalom!!!

Hey there, WELCOME TO WORTHY!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with the first part of your post, but may we talk about the 2nd?

Saturday or Sunday? I realy think that it doesn't matter which day it is. Unless you realy have to work all seven days, give one day to god. And if you do have to work all seven days, don't worry, God will understand.

You posted that we are to follow G-d's Law, correct.

Well, what day is the Sabbath in the Scriptures? It is Saturday. And it starts on Friday night at sundown and goes until Saturday night at sundown.

G-d has never changed this. So, yes, it matters what day the SABBATH is on.

However, my stand is that we are to gather every day with the saints and worship as Christians. That is no way conflicts with the Sabbath (which is on Saturday) and it follows the NT examples of the Early Church.

However, we are not to work 7 days, at least we shouldn't. I don't believe it is SIN to work 7 days, but I believe the L-rd wants us to take the Sabbath and not work. And on that Sabbath, we are rest and separate that day and devote ourselves to honoring Him. Of course, it is lawful to work 7 days a week, but is it good? No!

G-d said we are to rest. There are spiritual AND physical reasons for that. We are to do ALL things to the glory of G-d. Is working 7 days a week doing that? No, it's not.

1 Corinthians 10

22 Shall we provoke the Lord to jealousy?Are we stronger than he?

23"All things are lawful," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful," but not all things build up. 24Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor.

Now THIS, I agree with 100%

[nanasimmons]

Shalom Nana,

How about staying on the topic of Sabbath please??

I am on topic....Deu 5:1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.

Deu 5:2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.

Deu 5:3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

Deu 5:4 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,

Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which engendereth to bondage, which is Hagar.

BTW, you are not very graceful in your replies and if I answered people in the manner you DO, I would be getting a "Dear sister" PM from one of the moderators.... But I would much rather sit under the footstool in this board than to sit in the 'good' places.....James 2

[Vickilynn]

I don't know why some people here call the Sabbath as some kind of burden? To me, it is the best day of the week that I look forward to. I rest from my daily labour, worship God, fellowship with Christian brothers and sisters, and even have pot luck lunch after the church services. Does this sound like a type of "Old Testament yoke of burden"? I think not!

Shalom JD,

Amen, we LOVE our Sabbath observances at home! The kids and the hubby look forward to it all week and it is very special. We try to have guests over as well. Even the 7-year old knows why we observe and that is to honor Jesus and His Word.

We also go to church on Sunday and that makes it awesome! Sabbath on Friday night / Saturday and then church on Sunday.

Hi Vickilynn,

In the way you just stated you observe the sabbath as a Christian I whould not have a problem agreeing with its ok to do.And I whould also be able to do it myself as a Christian because I have done it once in a previous Church I attended. We sported a Jewish Missionary from N.Y. City who ministered to the Jewish people in that area and he preached one night at at our Church and we celebrated the passover together as he explained it. And if a Jew asked me to celebrate the passover with him I whould in order to be a good testimony to him.But I just don't see the need to practice on a regular basis as a N.T. Christian.

I have learned something today from this post, don't jump to conclusions about where you might think some one is at theologically till you know them better.

Shalom Eddie,

Thank you for your post and for the reminder.

So many of us don't REALLY read what others are posting, we just jump in with both feet and think we know what they're saying!

And I understand about you not seeing a need to practice it regularly and that's fine. If it is something that the L-rd wants you to start practicing, HE will quicken it to your heart. But, perhaps this thread is serving to help do that? You see, The Sabbath IS G-d's Word.

Personally, I think all Christians should because it glorifies Jesus, honors Him, honors G-d's Word and brings us deeper understanding of the Word and our G-d. But, I do not believe it is sin not to. I just know that since it is G-d's Word and it glorifies HIM, it is a good thing, and should be desired to be practiced by those who truly love G-d and wish to honor Him and His Word. Anyway, that's between the L-rd and you, no one is to judge you whether you do or not, that is what the Scriptures say.

[Vickilynn]

Shalom Nana,

How about staying on the topic of Sabbath please??

We are not debating the law, or me, but the topic of Sabbath. Thank you.

[Vickilynn]

Don't suppose that I came to do away with the Law and the propeths. I did not come to do away with them, but to give them their full meaning. Heaven and earth may disappear. But I promise you that not even a period or comma will ever disappear from the Law. Everything written in it must happen.

If you reject even the least important command in the Law and teach others to do the same, you will be the least important person in the kingdom of heaven. But if you obey and teach others its commands, you will have an important place in the kingdom. You must obey God's commands better than the pharisees and the teachers of the Law obey them. If you don't, I promise you that you will never get into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5.17,18,19,20)

So, when your God tells you to obey the 10 commandments, you don't question it, you just do it.

Saturday or Sunday? I realy think that it doesn't matter which day it is. Unless you realy have to work all seven days, give one day to god. And if you do have to work all seven days, don't worry, God will understand.

I hope this helps, God bless you.

Shalom!!!

Hey there, WELCOME TO WORTHY!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with SOME of your post, but may we talk about the 2nd part since it pertains to the Sabbath?

Saturday or Sunday? I realy think that it doesn't matter which day it is. Unless you realy have to work all seven days, give one day to god. And if you do have to work all seven days, don't worry, God will understand.

You posted that we are to follow G-d's Law, correct.

Well, what day is the Sabbath in the Scriptures? It is Saturday. And it starts on Friday night at sundown and goes until Saturday night at sundown.

G-d has never changed this. So, yes, it matters what day the SABBATH is on.

However, my stand is that we are to gather every day with the saints and worship as Christians. That is no way conflicts with the Sabbath (which is on Saturday) and it follows the NT examples of the Early Church.

However, we are not to work 7 days, at least we shouldn't. I don't believe it is SIN to work 7 days, but I believe the L-rd wants us to take the Sabbath and not work. And on that Sabbath, we are rest and separate that day and devote ourselves to honoring Him. Of course, it is lawful to work 7 days a week, but is it good? No!

G-d said we are to rest. There are spiritual AND physical reasons for that. We are to do ALL things to the glory of G-d. Is working 7 days a week doing that? No, it's not.

1 Corinthians 10

22 Shall we provoke the Lord to jealousy?Are we stronger than he?

23"All things are lawful," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful," but not all things build up. 24Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor.

Now THIS, I agree with 100%

Shalom SP!

Hey, we agree! Whoo hoooo!

Actually, I have always posted this stand. It's just that you are one of the few who actually READ people's posts instead of attacking them on falsely-assumed beliefs. Kudos to you for really reading what is written and understanding what is being said (even if we don't agree.)

[ted]

Okay, this just went into the rude and mean side of things now, sw I think this was terribly unnecessary.

I disagree my friend. Read what this character is pushing in the guise of Christianity. He deserves to be hooted off the stage before some weak fish buys into it and loses their soul.

sw

Well, we will have to disagree on this one sw, there is a way to make a point without turning it into a free for all.

There are times that require serious debate and there are times that require humor and humiliation. That poster does not deserve serious consideration in my view. An Islamist pushing his religion here poses less of a threat than he does. At least you know where he is coming from. A cultist that uses Christian terms can deceive new believers and that is the real danger he brings.

sw

I'm sorry, but I fail to see where there would be a time for humiliation when teaching the Word of God. A time to shake the dust, yes, but for humiliation? Show me.

Besides that, it is against our TOS do humiliate other members.

t.

Edited August 19, 2007 by ted

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

This is an excellent resource for learning more about the Sabbath and how it applies to our Christian lives today. It is written by a GENTILE Christian.

http://biblicalholidays.com/sabbath.htm

Sabbath

Purpose of Sabbath

God sanctifies places and things to communicate to His people. He set apart the ark of the covenant and tabernacle. He set apart His holy book

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

How Messiah is glorified in our observance of the Sabbath:

Messianic Significance of Sabbath

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The Sabbath reminds us that God created the world.

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The Sabbath reminds us that God delivered Israel from bondage in Egypt.

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The Sabbath reminds us that Christ delivered us from the penalty of sin at Calvary.

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The Sabbath reminds us that God will make us holy, just as He made the Sabbath holy.

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The Sabbath reminds us that God will finish His work in our lives, just

as He finished His work of creation and redemption.

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The Sabbath reminds us that God is our Lord and God.

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The Sabbath reminds us that we have rest in Christ.

The rest that God intended for us to receive on Sabbath is not just a physical rest from our work or a mental and emotional rest from the stress of life. When Jesus said, Come unto me . . .I will give you rest (Matt. 11:28), He also said, ye will find rest unto your souls (Matt. 11:29). Entering that rest requires that we stop trying to save ourselves and rest in the finished work of Jesus.

The image of the joyless, somber restricting Sunday stems from the 16th century. Jesus defines the Sabbath in Matthew 12:8, For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath day [(!)] The Sabbath, as with the rest of the Bible finds fulfillment in Christ. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth (Rom. 10:4). Everything about the Sabbath teaches us something about the Messiah (Lancaster 1996).

The Candles

The Sabbath is full of customs and traditions far predating the time of Jesus. The two candles that are lit to mark the beginning of the Sabbath are called the witness candles and they are symbolic of the two witnesses that stand before the Lord in Revelation 11 and Zechariah 4. They are Moses and Elijah, the personifications of the Torah and the Prophets. These same two witnesses appear with Messiah in the transfiguration. Each Friday evening the lighting of the two witness candles reminds us that Messiah is witnessed throughout the Torah (first five books of the Bible) and the Prophets.

The Wine

When the family is seated around the table, a declaration of the holiness of the Sabbath and the blessing of the wine is recited (Kiddush). The father lifts a cup of wine and says

[Eliyahuw]

You must obey God's commands better than the pharisees and the teachers of the Law obey them. If you don't, I promise you that you will never get into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5.17,18,19,20)

what????

this is true but only half truth! you must include Christ on the cross along with this statement. no man can enter heaven without christ.

Verse 20 SAYS,

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Now you cannot be that righteous! And were not brought to righteousness anymore, Christ took care of that on the cross. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON ON THIS EARTH, in the past, nor in the future can be that righteous! So your statement that unless you follow all the laws, you won't get into heaven is only half the truth.

the full truth is that unless you exceed the pharasees, your works cannot get you into heaven. SO in order to get to heaven, you have to rely only on christ since he covered bringing us to righteousness!