Bangor Makes It Illegal to Smoke in Cars

[forrestkc]

I'm not convinced second hand smoke is dangerous.

http://www.lcolby.com/

National Academy of Sciences and the CDC vrs Some Guy with a Webpage.

I think I am going to go with the National Academy of Sciences and The CDR.

[Giaour]

that was just 1 site.

There a many out there to choose from.

Pick one.

[billie]

Well, I know it made me sick as a kid, can't speak for anyone else.

[Giaour]

smelly and disgusting , I can agree with.

Causing death is still up for debate.

[kittyjo]

Well, I know it made me sick as a kid, can't speak for anyone else.

I wasn't going to say anything because it is a sensitive subject for many.

I agree with all of those who believe that the government should butt out <no pun intended> and I also tend to agree with those who believe that the hype of health risks and cancer risk are over inflated... Many get lung cancer without smoking or living w/smokers. Much of it is a genetic predisposition. On the other hand there are those who are more sensitive to second hand smoke.... Should they dictate how others live?.... No, they should remove themselves from the situation if they feel it necessary.

I feel that I can say that because I'm one of those people. The gastro doc has told me to stay away from a smoking enviroment, he says it effect my bad pancreas... The same with the rhuematologist and endocrinologist... they say it irritates my immune system. They suggested that I don't work in casinos or walk along busy streets with a lot of exhaust fumes either.

I know plenty of people who smoke, I would never begrudge their choice or make a major drama production of the matter. Most smokers I know will excuse themselves and those who don't, well then I excuse myself if need be. Nope I don't like the smoke or the smell, but I respect the people.

[Guest LadyC]

butero, i've cited sources in the past and nobody cares. they believe what they want to believe. ironically, the sources i always quoted were the specific studies that can be found if you dig deep enough on the CDC and WHO websites. others, however, would quote summaries from the CDC website that slanted the reporting according to how the brass wanted it slanted... the brass being the CDC's boss... the government.

the statistics themselves from all research done by the CDC indicate that there is no statistical significance in the increased risk. for something to be considered statistically significant it has to be higher than the .5 to 1.5% that is typically used as the basis of the propoganda. why? well you're a smart man so i'm sure you are well aware that when the risk is only one or two percent higher, it's not possible to rule out other enviornmental factors and genetic predispositions.

feel free to dig on the sites til you find the actual studies, with the actual numbers. i did that a few times for people on this board but since that was when i had my other computer, i no longer have the links bookmarked.

i won't waste my time looking them up again anyway, because people ae going to believe what they want to believe,

for the record, just so everyone knows, i grew up breathing second hand smoke. my parents didn't smoke but our babysitter did and many of my parents friends did. i've got one of the strongest immune systems of anyone i know. i got strep throat a few months back and that's the first time i've been even slightly sick in about ten years.

my children grew up breathing SHS, (mine, their father's, their step-father's) and it's almost impossible for either of them to get sick.

some people get sick. some don't. there's not enough evidence, no matter how much hype there is, that SHS is the cause of it.

(but SHS can sure aggravate existing conditions, such as asthma and chronic bronchitus and stuff!)

[kat8585]

Personally, I believe secondhand smoke does cause harm, but aside from that, I don't believe smokers have the right to make the air so unpleasant for others to breathe. If they want to kill themselves, that's their choice, but when it gets past them and on to me, that's a different story.

What about those who have allergies and can't be around it?

I also agrree with insurance companies that are concerned with health care costs.

[Marnie]

Not to stray too far afield, but I am also opposed to car seats for children, seatbelts and those absolutely dopey bicycle helmets. Let me rephrase: I am against the LAWS, not the items listed. Those laws illustrate one thing: contempt for the population on the part of government.

[Arthur Durnan]

Zowie, who is dumb enuf to smoke in cars?!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

[VRSpock]

Isn't a car considered private property? What's the difference between telling someone they can't smoke in their own car, and saying they can't smoke in their house either. I am all for private property rights and am concerned that the government may be over reaching with this law. I am a non-smoker, but even if I weren't I'd never smoke with my children around (if I had kids). That's just common sense, is our country in such bad shape that we have to legislate common sense?

It's no different than telling you that you can't drink a beer in a vehicle while driving...or anyone else can drink or even have an open container of alcohol in a vehicle...all of which can get you into serious trouble with the law.

Personally, I'd like to see smoking banned across the board. My mom was a chain smoker too and so are a lot of my family members. I can't stand walking out of a smoke free building only to have the "smoke free" counteracted by a super concentration of second hand smoke blasting me in the face as I step out the front door.

You'd think people wouldn't want to wreak of the nasty odor that cigarette smoking leaves embedded in their clothes, their hair, their vehicle...even their furniture. You can smell a smoker a mile away down wind from them. They can move out of an apartment and 2 years later it still wreaks of cigarette smoke. My step son got clothes from his dad for Christmas and the whole house wreaked of cigarette smoke the moment we cracked open the box. The first thing we had to do was wash the odor out of them. YUCK!!!