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If this has been asked before I aplogise, :th_praying: BUT..

Does todays Believing man of God, want and need a Proverbs 31 gal?

I look around me and I don't see it and the Proverbs 31 lady...does she really exist?

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I better read Proverbs 31 to find out :th_praying:


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my wife is a prov 31 gal....

ThankYou Lord for such a wonderful gift....

mike

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my wife is a prov 31 gal....

ThankYou Lord for such a wonderful gift....

mike

So the Proverbs 31 woman does exist....but she's married....!

The Prov woman makes me completely tired just reading about her and yet she's in the Bible for a reason and I would soo like to be like her but I haven't got the energy...

I have looked for this type of woman and I'm starting to think she's become extinct.

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my wife is a prov 31 gal....

ThankYou Lord for such a wonderful gift....

mike

So the Proverbs 31 woman does exist....but she's married....!

The Prov woman makes me completely tired just reading about her and yet she's in the Bible for a reason and I would soo like to be like her but I haven't got the energy...

I have looked for this type of woman and I'm starting to think she's become extinct.

You have to remember, Proverbs 31 is a portrait of a woman over her WHOLE lifetime.

If the husband loves his wife like Christ loved the church and gave his life for it...

if he honors her and cherishes her...

if husband and wife submit one to another...

if he treats his wife like a precious gift from God...

if they edify each other,

if they treat each other as they each would like to also be treated...

if they work together to nurture their marriage...

if they keep Jesus in the center of their marriage...

THEN the wife will aspire to be a Proverbs 31 woman.

It's a daily journey and you don't have to be all of it at the same time.

Actually, you probably don't even have to be married... just walk with Jesus and be all you can be in Him. That's the best any of us can do.

MHH

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Yes I agree, Prov 31 is the entirety of her, giving her life to others, be it her Husband, children, the needy. My question is...is the Christian man of 2007 still looking for this kind of committed woman and is she available these days?

Alot of women, even Christian women have grown up witnessing broken marriages, unhappy marriages that a model of this kind of woman is as rare as hens teeth.

I look around me in my Christian community and I could count less than 5 women that spring to mind that could walk the same path as the Prov woman.

Not growing up with a Mum myself, even I need role models , but rare they are.

I think half the problem of BEING the Prov 31 woman is having a husband who meets the same criteria as her.....and not finding him.....


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When my folks were first married, my mother--like many women in rural America--literally had to carry water from a creek each morning to boil it to do her cleaning and laundry. There was no washing machine, but a tub with a manual scrub board. No drier, but dad put up clothes lines. No vacuum cleaner, just a broom and hand 'carpet groomer.' No gas or electric range, but a wood or coal stove for which dad chopped the wood, or purchased the coal (I remember sometimes mom would send us out to walk along the railroad tracks with buckets to pick up the pieces of coal that had fallen off the passing coal cars on the trains!). In fact, when the oldest of we siblings were little, they didn't have indoor plumbing either, so there would always be mud or dirt tracked into the house over night (dad would NOT allow indoor 'thunder mugs'!). Poor mom! She had no microwave, no blender, no store bought bread, & certainly no bread maker. No "Mr. Coffee" with automatic timer and bean grinder attachment, no tupperware, no quiznarts, no garbage disposal, no refrigerator, no freezer, no dishwasher. ALL the clothes had to be ironed. And there were no electric irons. The iron was either heated by sitting on a special plate on the coal stove, or the 'modern,' 'convenient' ones had a little cap you removed and you could drop a load of glowing coals right inside the iron, which would keep it hot for 30 or even 45 minutes--OH THE JOYS OF MODERN CONVENIENCE!!!

Soooo.........after she and dad had hauled 30 or 40 gallons of water up to the house (usually before the kids got up), mom would begin stoking the coal or wood stove, dad would bring extra coal in from the coal shed, then mom would cook breakfast on the old stove, while trying to get the school age kids up and ready for school, while dad got ready for work--which was walking distance, fortunately, so mom generally got to keep the car. After enough water for the breakfast dishes had been boiled, and certainly after the kids were off to school, she would pour the hot water into a basin, and fill another basin with cold water for the rinse, and do the morning dishes. She also hand dried them and put them up. Then she'd heat more water to begin her cleaning with her broom, dustpan, carpet groomer, steel wool, mop, various cleansers, etc. Usually by that time, the little ones were waking up, so there was more water to heat for cleaning up the kids, heating a bottle (or two....or three!). Washing the sheets for the ones who wet the bed had to be done, and as I said water had to be heated for this task on the coal stove, and then they were all scrubbed by hand, rinsed by hand, and wrung out by hand, then hung on the outside clothes line to dry by hand (unless it was rainy, then 'emergency clothes lines' were strung up all over the house (this made a fun fantasy world for us wee-uns, and as we dodged in and out and through this laundry, I'm sure we simply re-dirtied it!). All the while the little ones were whining for this or that, or just for attention.

Then it was time to make bread. All the ingredients were mixed by hand, and sometimes improvisations had to be made because there wasn't enough vegetable oil, or only 1 egg left, or whatever..... While the bed is baking, and throughout the day, she had to keep chasing little ones away from the hot stove (Yes, the WHOLE STOVE was HOT! Sides, bottom, back, every surface ready to blister you in a single moment of carelessness). Ironing had to be done. There were no 'never iron' or 'wrinkle free' garments EVERYTHING had to be ironed, and with the primitive implement I mentioned above ("Well, time to re-stoke the iron!" my mom would say merrily......).

Dusting was a constant chore, as coal soot would settle every where, and we were not allowed to 'run around looking like little renegades' covered with soot!

The rigors of preparing a large family dinner nightly on a coal stove, and without even the benefit of a refrigerator are boggling, are they not? Yet mom did it every single day.

Sometimes, bigger unexpected messes made mom have to get a couple of buckets, get the kids in tow, and go down to the creek for extra water, then come back and heat THAT up too. If it was winter, the stove had to be kept stoked all day, because that was our source of heat for the house too.

Now for most you reading this, your mothers, or grand mothers lived exactly like this. Today we have indoor hot and cold running water, vacuums, microwaves, refrigerator/freezers, electric ranges, mixers, automatic coffee makers, toasters, bagel slicers, store-bought, pre-sliced bread, electric irons, wrinkle free clothes, automatic washers and driers, GOBS of convenience producing gadgets, and the only difference between our houses, and gramma's? We have far fewer children, and GRAMMA'S HOUSE WAS CLEANER AND BETTER KEPT! Statistically, America's homes are messier and more unkempt than they have been in several generations.

What's going on?

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When my folks were first married, my mother--like many women in rural America--literally had to carry water from a creek each morning to boil it to do her cleaning and laundry. There was no washing machine, but a tub with a manual scrub board. No drier, but dad put up clothes lines. No vacuum cleaner, just a broom and hand 'carpet groomer.' No gas or electric range, but a wood or coal stove for which dad chopped the wood, or purchased the coal (I remember sometimes mom would send us out to walk along the railroad tracks with buckets to pick up the pieces of coal that had fallen off the passing coal cars on the trains!). In fact, when the oldest of we siblings were little, they didn't have indoor plumbing either, so there would always be mud or dirt tracked into the house over night (dad would NOT allow indoor 'thunder mugs'!). Poor mom! She had no microwave, no blender, no store bought bread, & certainly no bread maker. No "Mr. Coffee" with automatic timer and bean grinder attachment, no tupperware, no quiznarts, no garbage disposal, no refrigerator, no freezer, no dishwasher. ALL the clothes had to be ironed. And there were no electric irons. The iron was either heated by sitting on a special plate on the coal stove, or the 'modern,' 'convenient' ones had a little cap you removed and you could drop a load of glowing coals right inside the iron, which would keep it hot for 30 or even 45 minutes--OH THE JOYS OF MODERN CONVENIENCE!!!

Soooo.........after she and dad had hauled 30 or 40 gallons of water up to the house (usually before the kids got up), mom would begin stoking the coal or wood stove, dad would bring extra coal in from the coal shed, then mom would cook breakfast on the old stove, while trying to get the school age kids up and ready for school, while dad got ready for work--which was walking distance, fortunately, so mom generally got to keep the car. After enough water for the breakfast dishes had been boiled, and certainly after the kids were off to school, she would pour the hot water into a basin, and fill another basin with cold water for the rinse, and do the morning dishes. She also hand dried them and put them up. Then she'd heat more water to begin her cleaning with her broom, dustpan, carpet groomer, steel wool, mop, various cleansers, etc. Usually by that time, the little ones were waking up, so there was more water to heat for cleaning up the kids, heating a bottle (or two....or three!). Washing the sheets for the ones who wet the bed had to be done, and as I said water had to be heated for this task on the coal stove, and then they were all scrubbed by hand, rinsed by hand, and wrung out by hand, then hung on the outside clothes line to dry by hand (unless it was rainy, then 'emergency clothes lines' were strung up all over the house (this made a fun fantasy world for us wee-uns, and as we dodged in and out and through this laundry, I'm sure we simply re-dirtied it!). All the while the little ones were whining for this or that, or just for attention.

Then it was time to make bread. All the ingredients were mixed by hand, and sometimes improvisations had to be made because there wasn't enough vegetable oil, or only 1 egg left, or whatever..... While the bed is baking, and throughout the day, she had to keep chasing little ones away from the hot stove (Yes, the WHOLE STOVE was HOT! Sides, bottom, back, every surface ready to blister you in a single moment of carelessness). Ironing had to be done. There were no 'never iron' or 'wrinkle free' garments EVERYTHING had to be ironed, and with the primitive implement I mentioned above ("Well, time to re-stoke the iron!" my mom would say merrily......).

Dusting was a constant chore, as coal soot would settle every where, and we were not allowed to 'run around looking like little renegades' covered with soot!

The rigors of preparing a large family dinner nightly on a coal stove, and without even the benefit of a refrigerator are boggling, are they not? Yet mom did it every single day.

Sometimes, bigger unexpected messes made mom have to get a couple of buckets, get the kids in tow, and go down to the creek for extra water, then come back and heat THAT up too. If it was winter, the stove had to be kept stoked all day, because that was our source of heat for the house too.

Now for most you reading this, your mothers, or grand mothers lived exactly like this. Today we have indoor hot and cold running water, vacuums, microwaves, refrigerator/freezers, electric ranges, mixers, automatic coffee makers, toasters, bagel slicers, store-bought, pre-sliced bread, electric irons, wrinkle free clothes, automatic washers and driers, GOBS of convenience producing gadgets, and the only difference between our houses, and gramma's? We have far fewer children, and GRAMMA'S HOUSE WAS CLEANER AND BETTER KEPT! Statistically, America's homes are messier and more unkempt than they have been in several generations.

What's going on?

Well put Leonard and I can see where you are coming from.

All those women like your Mom should all have received medals simply for WANTING to get out of bed the next day!!!

True too, we modern women have all the mod cons and we still whinge, complain and serve up frozen dinners.

I'm really starting to believe the Prov 31 woman IS extinct and trying to revive her is going to be one heck of a task.


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If this has been asked before I aplogise, :emot-pray: BUT..

Does todays Believing man of God, want and need a Proverbs 31 gal?

I look around me and I don't see it and the Proverbs 31 lady...does she really exist?

Yes she does. I know several.

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