Texans given deadly force gun laws

[Eliyahuw]

Again, who cares about statistics?

Stat junkies and those who are interested in the best policy for cutting down on crime.

Are our rights based on pragmatism?

No, they are based on the law. However, the laws can change and so a debate over the best approach to fighting crime may (or may not) be helped by statistics.

No our rights are the law of the land. their not based on law, they are the law and cannot be changed unless 3/4 of the country says it is to change.

[Tubal-Cain]

No our rights are the law of the land. their not based on law, they are the law and cannot be changed unless 3/4 of the country says it is to change.

OK, so they can be changed.

[Eliyahuw]

No our rights are the law of the land. their not based on law, they are the law and cannot be changed unless 3/4 of the country says it is to change.

OK, so they can be changed.

Do you really think they will be?? you can't get 2 people to agree on any one thing these days much less 3/4 of congress

[Tubal-Cain]

Do you really think they will be?? you can't get 2 people to agree on any one thing these days much less 3/4 of congress

The 2nd Amendment probably will not be changed but the interpretation of that amendment and gun laws in general probably will.

[ted]

As the paper says, our rights are given to us by our Creator. Laws simply reinforce that fact, and guide behavior as such, both of the Government and the people..

t.

[apothanein kerdos]

As the paper says, our rights are given to us by our Creator. Laws simply reinforce that fact, and guide behavior as such, both of the Government and the people..

t.

Exactly.

[Arthur Durnan]

If gun control worked, Washington DC would be the safest place in the world instead of the Murder Capital in America. Gun control is never to be confused with CRIME control. Nor with SELF-control. It's already illegal to murder, isn't it, so why would the banning of guns prevent the killing of innocent citizens? When it comes to reduction of violence, all major emphasis should be on the gun-toting CRIMINALS. "Have Gun, Will Shoot" (re law-abiding citizens versus violent criminals) expresses U.S. constitutional rights very succinctly. Another excellent consideration: Restore AND IMPLEMENT capital punishment in all States...build bigger, stronger prisons... and appoint conservative judges.

GOD BLESS THE USA!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

[jgarden]

As the paper says, our rights are given to us by our Creator. Laws simply reinforce that fact, and guide behavior as such, both of the Government and the people..

US group protests Vatican support for gun control

Jun. 30, 2006 (CWNews.com) - An American Catholic group has issued a strong protest against Vatican support for gun-control efforts.

The St. Gabriel Possenti Society, a Virginia-based organization devoted to protecting the individual's right to self-defense, criticized statements by Archbishop Celestino Migliore, the Holy See's representative at the UN, endorsing "the promotion of disarmament" and calling for stiffer international controls on the sale and possession of firearms.

John Snyder, the founder and chairman of the St. Gabriel Possenti Society, said the archbishop's words pointed to a "terribly misguided secular political initiative." He urged Catholics in the US to protest that initiative............

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=45068

I'm not Catholic but I agree with the Pope.

Obviously the Pope and the gun supporters are receiving their instructions from 2 different "Creators."

Edited April 1, 2007 by jgarden

[Wingwalker]

If gun control worked, Washington DC would be the safest place in the world instead of the Murder Capital in America. Gun control is never to be confused with CRIME control. Nor with SELF-control. It's already illegal to murder, isn't it, so why would the banning of guns prevent the killing of innocent citizens? When it comes to reduction of violence, all major emphasis should be on the gun-toting CRIMINALS. "Have Gun, Will Shoot" (re law-abiding citizens versus violent criminals) expresses U.S. constitutional rights very succinctly. Another excellent consideration: Restore AND IMPLEMENT capital punishment in all States...build bigger, stronger prisons... and appoint conservative judges.

GOD BLESS THE USA!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

I fully agree with you here. I never heard of guns killing people. I do hear of people using guns to kill people. I also hear of people using cars, knives, fry pans, beer bottles, baseball bats, lamps, and even their own hands to kill people. The people who kill people need to be criminalized, confiscated, and taken out of the public's reach, not the tools they used to do the crime. Since all of these "tools" are used by the public for other non criminal uses.

On a side note, public humiliation worked in the past.

[Axxman]

Since Texas, Florida, and Georgia are annual leaders in the catagory of "Cop Killers" I would be interested to know if the number of Police Officers killed in these States has gone up or down. Seems to me that this just makes the job of law enforcement MUCH more dangerous. Sure would be nice if every Dirty Harry "wannabe" didn't have a gun under his seat.

Sounds like the public has more right to shoot someone than a cop does, thats for sure. If I put a wrist-lock on somebody I'm steeped in paperwork...If I shoot somebody I am relieved of my duties until it is determined I was justified. Everytime a police officer shoots his weapon nowadays he stands trial. It should be AT LEAST that strict on the public. You shoot someone that "you think" is gonna do you harm...you should be under house arrest and subjected to intense scrutiny, until it can be determined it was justified. That might keep your fingers a bit less "itchy."