Are we commanded to cut our hair or not?

[Guest Biblicist]

Well, I agree with my own opinion!

[Openly Curious]

My goodness. What is this thread about again.

Shalom,

It's about hair length and discussing hair length in a gracious way even if we disagree.

Mine is 6 cm long.

You went to the trouble of actually measuring it LOL

You are up in Cananda so the measurements are different in the states could you convert that for us in inches?

OC

[Floatingaxe]

My goodness. What is this thread about again.

Shalom,

It's about hair length and discussing hair length in a gracious way even if we disagree.

Mine is 6 cm long.

You went to the trouble of actually measuring it LOL

You are up in Cananda so the measurements are different in the states could you convert that for us in inches?

OC

2 1/4 inches...or thereabouts. I was just lying here with my laptop and my measuring tape was beside me. I am supposed to take my measurements for a woman who wants me to do some sizing for her catalogue business, and I am putting it off! I'd rather measure my hair, if you please!

[Guest Biblicist]

I actually have my hair long, below my shoulders.

I believe God wants it that way because my husband does. It would dishonor my head to cut my hair against my husband's wishes.

[Guest shiloh357]

Here's just a few to chew on. So you can quit saying that no one ever called you on your false accusations.

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My views were characterized in worse terms than that, but you refuse to acknowledge or address that.

False.

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Of course, you refuse to acknowledge the lack of "grace and respect" in those actions...

false

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since you obviously agree with their position to start with, which only shows the lack of objectivity you possess in this issue.

false

Why are they false? So far, you have completely ignored addressing specfically the charges leveled against by Butero and exrockstar that I am throwing out parts of the Bible, or that I am somehow choppingn up the Bible.

I have every reason to believe that you favor the position opposite mine, since you refuse to address the very things they did, which you now accuse me of. So far, in your book, they get a free pass. Furthermore, the article you posted lends to the belief that you stand with their position, which is fine, but at least be honest that everything thus far presented by you shows where you actually stand whether you admit to it outright or not. If any inaccurate conclusions are drawn, it is due to inaccurate, confusing signals emmitted by you.

so far, you have refused within any degree of specficity, addressed the lack of grace and respect I was handed by those like Butero, who claimed that I was out right wrong that my view on men's hair length is dangerous. He actually several choice words for my perspective that you failed to address with near the degree of specficifity with which you are accusing me.

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but you even crossed the line by denigrating fellow believers by posting an article that equates long haired Christian men with being like decaying, rotting flesh.

false

You posted the article, AND the author equated Christian men wearing long hair with rotting flesh. There is nothing false about it. The author you posted was far, far, far, more ungracious towards my views than I have ever expressed at all in this thread. I have never said anything that comes even close to vitriol contained in that article.

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When you visit your perfectionism on those who have falsely accused me, ...

name-calling

Sorry, that is not name calling. I am addressing your attitude and the posture in which you are posting towards me. I am also pointing out the doublestandard you operating under. I never called you a name.

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Judging from Giaour's response, you were quite upset and even had her on "ignore" for a while as I recall her saying. Doesn't sound like you were not upset or offended.

outright lies

These are just the recent ones

Idid not lie at all. I saw what I saw, and you very offended at Giaour and refused to acknowledge her explanations and clarifications and according to her, you put her on ignore. Every attempt to explain to you that it is board ettiquette to shorten someone's name when addressing them was met with nothing but lack of grace and understanding from you. There is nothing false at all. You are just not willing to own up to the times YOU have been less than gracious.

[Vickilynn]

I saw the exchange beteween you and Giaour and how upset you got about being called "vic" and you whined about how rudely you were being treated back then. . Please don't try and pretend it was anything other than what it was. I am neither lying nor presenting false information. It is just another example of your inability to deal with a debate environment.

Shalom Shiloh,

I pray the people reading can see how off-base your comments are.

You now want us to believe you are a mind-reader and you know what's going on in people's minds and hearts when you know nothing of the sort?

My Brother, I don't really care what you believe in your own mind. You don't have a clue what is in my heart. And the fact that you are insisting you know something you do not is another red flag of concern from accepting any sort of Biblical instruction from you. I am sorry, but your behavior tells me that you are not interested in truth and this is dangerous when young Christians are reading what you write.

Yes, you are lying and you are presenting false information. Unless you can PROVE your accusation, [which you cannot] you cannot post your false assumptions as fact. It's as simple as that. And Brother, lying is a sin. So is bearing false witness. This is very serious.

Edited April 9, 2007 by Vickilynn

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

I had hair down to my waist before I had to have it cut because it was thinning. I still have the ponytail.

[exrockstar]

my hair is short and close cut on the sides.

if i want to look cool i put on gel and spike it up a bit. ... 3xR0c|<stAr c-u-l8r

Edited April 9, 2007 by exrockstar

[Guest shiloh357]

I saw the exchange beteween you and Giaour and how upset you got about being called "vic" and you whined about how rudely you were being treated back then. . Please don't try and pretend it was anything other than what it was. I am neither lying nor presenting false information. It is just another example of your inability to deal with a debate environment.

Shalom Shiloh,

This has gone too far. I pray the people reading can see how off-base your comments are.

You now want us to believe you are a mind-reader and you know what's going on in people's minds and hearts when you know nothing of the sort?

My Brother, I don't really care what you believe in your own mind. You don't have a clue what is in my heart. And the fact that you are insisting you know something you do not is another red flag of concern from accepting any sort of Biblical instruction from you. I am sorry, but your behavior tells me that you are not interested in truth and this is dangerous when young Christians are reading what you write.

Yes, you are lying and you are presenting false information. Unless you can PROVE your accusation, [which you cannot] you cannot post your false assumptions as fact. It's as simple as that. And Brother, lying is a sin. So is bearing false witness. This is very serious.

I am not judging your heart. Like I said, I am simply going off the exchange I read between you an Giaour. Nothing I have up to this point has been untrue.

[Vickilynn]

[ Like I said, I am simply going off the exchange I read between you an Giaour. Nothing I have up to this point has been untrue.

Shalom,

And that is a lie. All that you have said concerning that exchange has been a lie. Accept it or not, that is the real truth from the only person who knows if I was offended - me. I was not and I am not. Now, if you wish to believe something else, that is your business. But, when you have been told the truth and you continue to post a lie, that becomes slander. Pray about it. Do you really want people to know how far you are going with this and continuing to lie when you;ve been told the truth? It's a little ridiculous.

I know that I cannot accept anything that you write now because I see how you treat the truth with disdain and would rather embrace and perpetuate a lie because it fits your will. Not G-d's will, but yours.

As I said before, believe what you wish, I truly don't care.

I will pray for you as I said and I pray the L-rd will speak to your heart about what you're doing here and why. It is between you and Him.,

G-d bless you.