Are we commanded to cut our hair or not?

[Guest Biblicist]

Bible.org: 1 Corinthians

Which pretty much sums up what I have been saying.

Shiloh, get used to it, I'm a woman. We are entitled to, and expected, to change our minds, frequently.

[Vickilynn]

today's culture does not equate long hair with homosexuality.

can we please end the bickerfest between you two?

Shalom LadyC,

What are you talking about?

There is no continuing "bickerfest." By posting this, you are creating and perpetuating something. Please stop.

Every person on this board has the right to post whether you agee or not. That includes me. If you don't like my posts, feel free to ignore them.

Thank you.

[Vickilynn]

today's culture does not equate long hair with homosexuality.

What about transvestites?

Shalom,

Good point. Not the only one concerning long hair, but a valid point.

A mixing of genders by trying to look like a woman. The Bible says that should not be.

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

Yes, the admonitions concerning long hair on men has a historical significance. That is indisputable.

However, I disagree with the theory that these and other Scriptures apply ONLY to the historical application.

Everything in the Bible is an example to us, spiritual lessons as well as physical examples.

Jesus did not abolish the Law, he expounded upon it.

So, in this situation where Paul gives direction for the Corinthians in how not to act so as not to bring shame, we as Christians, can use this as our examples as well. I do not believe that the leading of the Scriptures are limited in any way in our lives. We are to live by the Word and G-d's instructions to us from it.

And before someone asks... no, we are not UNDER the Law as a physical requirement. (So, long hair is not a sin)

I believe we love the Law because it is our spiritual standard, as Jesus is.

[Guest shiloh357]

today's culture does not equate long hair with homosexuality.

What about transvestites?

Shalom,

Good point. Not the only one concerning long hair, but a valid point.

A mixing of genders by trying to look like a woman. The Bible says that should not be.

Yes but hair is a only a small part of transgenders. We have them in my city, and they have both long and short hair. In both cases their hair fixed in an effeminate way. That does not equate with a regular guy who sports a ponytail.

[Guest shiloh357]

Yes, the admonitions concerning long hair on men has a historical significance. That is indisputable.

However, I disagree with the theory that these and other Scriptures apply ONLY to the historical application.

Everything in the Bible is an example to us, spiritual lessons as well as physical examples.

Vickilynn there are two basic kinds of "applications." There is practical application, and spiritual application. More to the point, you are disagreeing with something that had not been said. You are trying refute an argument that has not been raised. No one has said that 1 Corinthians 11 applies ONLY to the historical application. The argument has been made over and over again that historical application is the primary application but not the only one. Great pains have been taken to point out over and over by myself and others that all of the Bible has spiritual applications, lessons and instructions. However, not all of the Bible was meant to be for every person in every age. There are laws that were given ONLY to Israel as a nation and then only when Israel was a theocracy. Not all of the laws that God gave Israel were meant to be for every nation, every person in every age. While we are able to gain spiritual insight from them they are not practically applicable or binding upon us.

Jesus did not abolish the Law, he expounded upon it.

Yes, but this is not a "law" issue.

So, in this situation where Paul gives direction for the Corinthians in how not to act so as not to bring shame, we as Christians, can use this as our examples as well. I do not believe that the leading of the Scriptures are limited in any way in our lives. We are to live by the Word and G-d's instructions to us from it.I believe we love the Law because it is our spiritual standard, as Jesus is. And before someone asks... no, we are not UNDER the Law as a physical requirement. (So, long hair is not a sin)

It is not a matter of "limiting" the leading of the Spirit. The study of Scripture is as much an intellectual process as it is a spiritual one. Again, this is not a law issue. As I stated we do learn and gain insight and understanding relative to how Christians should conduct themselves, but to make a doctrine out the hair remarks, is to abandon sound interpretive practices.

[Vickilynn]

Shalom Shiloh,

Thank you, but I know about Biblical applications.

I am posting my position, and my beliefs from Scripture.

Jesus did not abolish the Law, he expounded upon it.

Yes, but this is not a "law" issue.

I never said it was. I was using the Law as an example. I was not limiting my comments to the hair issue alone.

As I stated we do learn and gain insight and understanding relative to how Christians should conduct themselves, but to make a doctrine out the hair remarks, is to abandon sound interpretive practices.

And that is your opinion, which you are entitled to. However, I disagree with your opinion and your conclusions, which I am entitled to.

I believe, as I have stated previously, that the hair issue is a valid topic and question for those who wish to study the Scriptures to learn how we are to live.

I understand that you don't believe that, you don't need to repeat it.

However, there is more than one view represented here.

[OopsMartin]

In fact there are more than two views also, Vicki.

[Guest shiloh357]

Shalom Shiloh,

Thank you, but I know about Biblical applications.

I am posting my position, and my beliefs from Scripture.

Jesus did not abolish the Law, he expounded upon it.

Yes, but this is not a "law" issue.

I never said it was. I was using the Law as an example. I was not limiting my comments to the hair issue alone.

As I stated we do learn and gain insight and understanding relative to how Christians should conduct themselves, but to make a doctrine out the hair remarks, is to abandon sound interpretive practices.

And that is your opinion, which you are entitled to. However, I disagree with your opinion and your conclusions, which I am entitled to.

I believe, as I have stated previously, that the hair issue is a valid topic and question for those who wish to study the Scriptures to learn how we are to live.

I understand that you don't believe that, you don't need to repeat it.

However, there is more than one view represented here.

Have I ever said that you don't have a right to express your views? Why do you treat a disagreement with you as a threat to your right to post your views?

I understand that you disagree, but what I don't see is you presenting any evidence that we can discuss.

[Vickilynn]

In fact there are more than two views also, Vicki.

Shalom Martin,

Yes, I am aware of that as well.

I was saying there is more than one view, which means there are more than one. It doesn't mean there are only two views.

This is a very interesting topic and I see that there are several views expressed.

Thank you for reminding us about that Martin.