If God couldn't forgive Judas for betraying Jesu

[Guest LadyC]

Judas was never saved. God knows what we will choose before we ever do and because blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin, once a person rejects truth they have made their decision and God blinds them. Look at Pharoah, Israel,--Judas. We either have Satan for a father or God, Judas rejected the love of God and in 2 Thess. it says that because they rejected the love of God He will give them strong delusion to believe a lie. God could have and would have forgiven Judas but he gave him a choice like all of us and Judas did not receive truth.

God knew he wouldn't and chose him to betray Jesus, still Judas made his own decision.

Amen Adstar--

judas was a servant of God, a desciple of Christ, who turned his back on the truth. who has the right to make the judgement of whether or not judas was ever saved? only God. and scripture does not indicate that judas was never saved. to the contrary, it indicates clearly that he was in servitude to the truth, and then walked away unrepentant. for that, he was not admitted into the kingdom of heaven.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Well, there's no indication that Judas actually ever repented.

He just let guilt take over and took his life.

Some actually say that Judas was granted entry into Heaven.  I don't personally believe it, but I had some Baptist friends who did.  They believed in OSAS and made the assumption that Judas was saved and said that he went to Heaven.  Well, we'll see, but I just don't figure on seeing Judas there!

Hi,

I really dont know the answer to this question but Judas in a way did repent. If you read in the bible it says that Judas took the money that was given him for betraying Jesus and gave it back. This is an act of repentance, but yet in his sorrow he hung himself. Judas was remorseful and repentive.

Judas was never really right to begin with. Judas had an ungodly lust for money and he would constantly steal from the money that was donated. Ultimilty his lust for money distoryed Judas by betraying Jesus for 30 Shekels. Do you see how if sin is not dealt with in the early stages that it will eventualy betray you.

God bless,

[SisterT-Enduring2TheEnd]

Judas was never saved.

[SisterT-Enduring2TheEnd]

Do you see how if sin is not dealt with in the early stages that it will eventualy betray you.

Amen! Precisely!

[wordsower]

Lady C and Sister T,

The story is plain that Judas was an embezzler and a follower for monotary gain, God chose him form the foundation of the earth because he was the son of satan.

1 John 2:19 They went out from us,

but they didn't belong to us;

for if they had belonged to us,

they would have continued with us.

But they left, that they might be revealed that none of them belong to us.

Well, there's my proof text, where's yours?

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Lady C and Sister T,

The story is plain that Judas was an embezzler and a follower for monotary gain, God chose him form the foundation of the earth because he was the son of satan.

[SisterT-Enduring2TheEnd]

Lady C and Sister T,

The story is plain that Judas was an embezzler and a follower for monotary gain, God chose him form the foundation of the earth because he was the son of satan.

[Guest LadyC]

Lady C and Sister T,

The story is plain that Judas was an embezzler and a follower for monotary gain, God chose him form the foundation of the earth because he was the son of satan. 

1 John 2:19 They went out from us,

but they didn't belong to us;

for if they had belonged to us,

they would have continued with us.

But they left, that they might be revealed that none of them belong to us.

Well, there's my proof text, where's yours?

come on wordsower, quote the entire passage, not what conveniently suits you.

18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[4] 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

that's talking about Judas? nowhere even in the previous text of that chapter does it even hint at judas. in fact, one of the pointed things said in the previous verses is in verses 7&8... feel free to look up the surrounding scriptures: Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining.

now, since you are unwilling to look up the passages that sisterT provided, i'll take the liberty of posting the entire text of the most absolutely clear, indisputable, irrefutable, scriptural passage regarding whether judas was saved or not.

Acts 1

16

[CWJ]

Lady C and Sister T,

The story is plain that Judas was an embezzler and a follower for monotary gain, God chose him form the foundation of the earth because he was the son of satan.

[CWJ]

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now, since you are unwilling to look up the passages that sisterT provided, i'll take the liberty of posting the entire text of the most absolutely clear, indisputable, irrefutable, scriptural passage regarding whether judas was saved or not.

Acts 1

16