Does God love Homosexuals Too?

[Guest shiloh357]

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So on the one hand, we should not warn sinners like murderers and rapists and pedophiles that they will go to hell, 'cause that just "mean," and at the same time you are also opposed to Jesus saving them and changing them into decent people and giving the eternal life so that they will no longer hurt people? If they all Jesusto change them and are saved, why shouldn't they go to heaven?

Either way we go we are wrong, according to you. If we just let them continue on without warning them ('cause it's "mean"), then they will continue hurting others. If Jesus changes them and saves them, then you are opposed to that as well, even if they stop hurting others. Frankly, your logic doesn't fly.

So, how many chances do they get exactly?

As long as you are still in this life, there is an opportunity.

I go out and blow up a daycare. Little kids die. I ask Jesus for forgiveness. Is that a nice ticket to heaven? Or was it too wrong? If so, where's the line between what you get another chance in and what you don't? And who decides that?

It is not a case of "asking for forgiveness." It is a case receiving salvation and being changed. Blowing up the daycare is a symptom of the condition of being spiritually dead and separated from God. Salvation is an inward trasnformation of the heart.

Jesus died for the murderer, for the rapist, the prostitute, and the homosexual. He gave his life and paid the penalty for thier sin before God. Jesus, on the cross, satisfied God's justice by taking upon Himself the penalty of death that hung over all of humanity.

It would not matter if you blew up a daycare or not. You might the be the most upstanding person in your community. Without Christ ALL men no matter how good or bad they appear to be will die in their sin without Christ.

Your logic doesn't fly. Jesus can't help a schizophrenic who kills every time they have an episode.

Jesus can deliver a person from from schizophrenia.

Saying someone will go to hell is not a warning. Its a scare tactic.

No, it is a warning. AND it is something you should be afraid of. You would be like the person who sees the sign in the road that says the bridge is out but refuses to stop because he won't be "scared" from continuing on.

And its used to brainwash children. They're innocent, why tell them of hell?

No one is "innocent." All men are sinners before God.

Or what about a manic-depressive who says they receive divine instructions telling them to kill?

Same as above. Jesus is far more effective than medicine.

Medicine helps that. Science helps that.

Medicine can "help." Jesus delivers people out of such thing.s

Believing in God/god has absolutely no merit in the liklihood of someone killing/raping/molesting.

You are right. But I am not talking about believing in God. I am talking about being a Christian and having the indwelling Holy Spirit.. There are lots of people nonbelievers who are not atheists. They belive in God but the reject Him anyway and choose to molest/rape children and women.

[Guest lovinghim4ever]

To me it is but a game to our guest, a means of passing their time. Polite only enough to hide behind it, but here to play nonetheless. Not really seeking anything, just toying with those who do have convictions and morals. Amused with themselves and their perceived cleverness . . . just a Bill Maher wanna be.

I believe God has counseled us accordingly . . .

Pr 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

So which one would apply here?

I say the first one . . . it is too way late I think for the later from what I've seen.

I would say Brother Shiloh has spoken well for the Name of the Lord who will be justified in His dealings with our guest henceforth. God in His mercies is faithful to address the fool before He answers them according to their folly. I heard it said that the best judgment is to leave such to God and their own way . . .

Yes, you are right. Thank you for reminding me.

I'm done with this one.

[BlindSeeker]

To me it is but a game to our guest, a means of passing their time. Polite only enough to hide behind it, but here to play nonetheless. Not really seeking anything, just toying with those who do have convictions and morals. Amused with themselves and their perceived cleverness . . . just a Bill Maher wanna be.

I believe God has counseled us accordingly . . .

Pr 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

So which one would apply here?

I say the first one . . . it is too way late I think for the later from what I've seen.

I would say Brother Shiloh has spoken well for the Name of the Lord who will be justified in His dealings with our guest henceforth. God in His mercies is faithful to address the fool before He answers them according to their folly. I heard it said that the best judgment is to leave such to God and their own way . . .

You know, you could just type out M-A-T-R-I-X without having to go through all that weird cryptic talk. Of course I'm not seeking, I'm a non-believer, it says so as my status. As for being a Bill Maher wannabe, I'd rather go with Christopher Hitchens. He's got more zing to him. But I'm not going to go so far to say you are all Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell wannabes because they're frauds and you all seem like believers.

I do have morals thanks. I don't need a book to tell me what they are. I'm starting to think reason is not a defining characteristic.

I like the movies . . .so I'm trying to avoid identifying them with you. But you are correct in that I apply the verse to you.

As far as reasoning goes, you've abandon that a long time ago. Your not here seeking understanding of us . . . nor wanting to be understood. Your here only for the shock factor because it amuses you.

nuff said though . . .

[Guest shiloh357]

No one can be saved or delivered from a mental illness like manic-depressive or schizophrenia. It takes medicine to do that.

Sure they can. God, who created us, can also fix us.

[Guest shiloh357]

To me it is but a game to our guest, a means of passing their time. Polite only enough to hide behind it, but here to play nonetheless. Not really seeking anything, just toying with those who do have convictions and morals. Amused with themselves and their perceived cleverness . . . just a Bill Maher wanna be.

I believe God has counseled us accordingly . . .

Pr 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

So which one would apply here?

I say the first one . . . it is too way late I think for the later from what I've seen.

I would say Brother Shiloh has spoken well for the Name of the Lord who will be justified in His dealings with our guest henceforth. God in His mercies is faithful to address the fool before He answers them according to their folly. I heard it said that the best judgment is to leave such to God and their own way . . .

You know, you could just type out M-A-T-R-I-X without having to go through all that weird cryptic talk. Of course I'm not seeking, I'm a non-believer, it says so as my status. As for being a Bill Maher wannabe, I'd rather go with Christopher Hitchens. He's got more zing to him. But I'm not going to go so far to say you are all Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell wannabes because they're frauds and you all seem like believers.

I do have morals thanks. I don't need a book to tell me what they are. I'm starting to think reason is not a defining characteristic.

I like the movies . . .so I'm trying to avoid identifying them with you. But you are correct in that I apply the verse to you.

As far as reasoning goes, you've abandon that a long time ago. Your not here seeking understanding of us . . . nor wanting to be understood. Your here only for the shock factor because it amuses you.

nuff said though . . .

I would have to agree. I am not going to return to this thread as it is not a profitible use of my time.

[traveller]

To me it is but a game to our guest, a means of passing their time. Polite only enough to hide behind it, but here to play nonetheless. Not really seeking anything, just toying with those who do have convictions and morals. Amused with themselves and their perceived cleverness . . . just a Bill Maher wanna be.

I believe God has counseled us accordingly . . .

Pr 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

So which one would apply here?

I say the first one . . . it is too way late I think for the later from what I've seen.

I would say Brother Shiloh has spoken well for the Name of the Lord who will be justified in His dealings with our guest henceforth. God in His mercies is faithful to address the fool before He answers them according to their folly. I heard it said that the best judgment is to leave such to God and their own way . . .

You know, you could just type out M-A-T-R-I-X without having to go through all that weird cryptic talk. Of course I'm not seeking, I'm a non-believer, it says so as my status. As for being a Bill Maher wannabe, I'd rather go with Christopher Hitchens. He's got more zing to him. But I'm not going to go so far to say you are all Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell wannabes because they're frauds and you all seem like believers.

I do have morals thanks. I don't need a book to tell me what they are. I'm starting to think reason is not a defining characteristic.

I like the movies . . .so I'm trying to avoid identifying them with you. But you are correct in that I apply the verse to you.

As far as reasoning goes, you've abandon that a long time ago. Your not here seeking understanding of us . . . nor wanting to be understood. Your here only for the shock factor because it amuses you.

nuff said though . . .

I would have to agree. I am not going to return to this thread as it is not a profitible use of my time.

When the saints are done - so's the thread.

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