Jump to content

Recommended Posts


  • Group:  Members
  • Followers:  0
  • Topic Count:  3
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  16
  • Content Per Day:  0.00
  • Reputation:   2
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  07/29/2013
  • Status:  Offline

Posted (edited)

Jesus Christ preached repentance, not self-righteousness. He placed no limits on how many times a person can surrender themselves to God and be saved. 

Edited by Walt1093

  • Group:  Junior Member
  • Followers:  0
  • Topic Count:  1
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  46
  • Content Per Day:  0.01
  • Reputation:   6
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  07/29/2013
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

I have another view, I find in Matthew 25:31 the parable of the sheep and the goats. There are 3 distinct groups of people the sheep, the goats and the bretheren.

Some of the Apostles in there letters referred to themselves as bond servants to the Lord Jesus. I hope that maybe the doctrine of OSAS becomes clearer as well as the desire to have ones ear pierced. But maybe those that served under the Master and chose to go are not lost there sheep. but will gathered back, they simply choose to spend there time being concerned with the ways of the world. The latter is what is found mostly today, people born and following the spirit but never truly being able to let it all go, and experience having their ear pierced for life. I find it interesting that the sheep didn't apparently recognize the brethren, perhaps the did after they were formally introduced. 

 

1 Simon Peter, a bond servant and apostle of Jesus Christ,To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

 

 

If you don't know the law concerning a bond servant or how a bond servant is made, you might want to look at Deuteronomy 15:12

 

The Greek word used for "servant" here is the word doulos, which literally means, "bond-servant." It's not a hired servant, someone who serves because that's their job. It's an expression of an idea that God gave in the Law of Moses, back in Deuteronomy 15, starting in verse 12. Let's all turn there.

If a fellow Hebrew, a man or a woman, sells himself to you and serves you six years, in the seventh year you must let him go free. 13And when you release him, do not send him away empty-handed. 14Supply him liberally from your flock, your threshing-floor and your winepress. Give to him as the LORD your God has blessed you. 15Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and the LORD your God redeemed you. That is why I give you this command today.

 

You can all see clearly that God is not talking about hired servants here. If someone sells himself, like it says in verse 12, that's called being a slave. We're talking about a Hebrew who chooses to sell himself into slavery to another Hebrew, probably to raise money to pay a debt. And a slave doesn't have the same rights as a hired servant, does he? Can he quit if he doesn't like the work? Can he protest to the Labor Board if he doesn't think his working conditions are right? What rights does a slave have? None. He sold them away.

God permitted people to be slaves at that time. But God's Law didn't allow His people to mistreat slaves. The way it was practiced in our Southern states was completely against the principles of the Word of God. I could show you other passages that protect slaves, but the one we need to look at is this passage we just read. God is guaranteeing that slavery, for a Hebrew, is not permanent. It's not for life. The longest time a Hebrew could be kept in slavery was six years, and when he was set free in the seventh year, he was to be sent out with livestock and food. Why? So he wouldn't have to turn around and sell himself again the next day so he could get a bite to eat.

But now look at verse 16:

But if your servant says to you, "I do not want to leave you," because he loves you and your family and is well off with you, 17then take an awl and push it through his ear lobe into the door, and he will become your servant for life. Do the same for your maidservant.


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  3
  • Topic Count:  30
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  3,373
  • Content Per Day:  0.70
  • Reputation:   683
  • Days Won:  22
  • Joined:  02/28/2012
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

Once.  As in originally believing and accepting Christ, once.  Born again suggests new life...no new life, perhaps no new birth but that's prob another thread


  • Group:  Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  18
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  457
  • Content Per Day:  0.10
  • Reputation:   156
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  05/19/2012
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

i know you will say once but why once, its twice why twice, if n-times then why n-times

****

Jesus said one must be born again, not again and again and again and again.

 

The second birth is a fusion of the Holy Spirit and the spirit of man, thus creating a new spiritual entity - a new creature in Christ.   It is EXACTLY the same as when a man and a woman create a baby.   The Holy Spirit and the spirit of man join to create a new spiritual creature - an eternal creature.

 

The old is passed away forever.  The new is come and it is precious in the sight of God.   This is not mere words, it is the creation of an entirely new thing in heaven and earth - a new creature!  A new spirit resides in the old man (and does battle with the flesh within which it finds itself.)  The born again Christian is no longer entirely human.  The spirit of Christ actually joins with the spirit of man - FOR REAL.  It is not myth and it is not empty words.  It is spiritual reality.

 

It is the ultimate act of redemption and the greatest miracle in the pages of the Bible.  Not even the promised resurrection can surpass the enormity of the second birth, for without it there would be no resurrection for man.

 

Jesus stated that unless a man was born again he could not see the kingdom of heaven.   The entire NT talks about the nature of this new creature!  Read it again for the first time!  Do you think the apostles were just uttering platitudes when they wrote these things?  They were writing about something incredibly real.   They were talking about the new covenant between God and man.  They were writing about the miracle the second Adam has wrought, a new man, a creature reborn of the Holy Spirit and the spirit of man.

 

Will you attempt to undo the greatest miracle and gift of God to man?   Moses parting the Red Sea was child's play compared to this.

 

One cannot be unborn again any more than a man can reverse engineer his own DNA, separate his father's sperm from his mother's egg and return to the oblivion from which he came.  It simply cannot be done.  

 

NT scripture speaks at length (read the book of Hebrews from beginning to end) about the priesthood of Christ done once for all time for us and for all men.  READ IT.  And when you're done reading it, read it again.  Memorize key verses.  It's worth the time and a good study.

 

Those who have accepted Christ into their lives and have known the second birth are sealed unto the day of redemption.   You cannot unstick divine glue and you cannot subvert God's promises.   It is once done and forever.

 

If a man is born again, the Holy Spirit becomes one with him forever - IT IS NOT A WEEKEND VISITOR.  You can't kick it out.  It is part of you and you are part of it.  The entire remainder of your life will be spent learning how to live with the situation.

 

And that is the most noble pursuit a man can embrace.

 

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...


  • Group:  Diamond Member
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  21
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  601
  • Content Per Day:  0.13
  • Reputation:   196
  • Days Won:  3
  • Joined:  04/27/2012
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

My my...Keep Hollering...In The Name of Jesus! :mgcheerful: 


  • Group:  Worthy Ministers
  • Followers:  68
  • Topic Count:  188
  • Topics Per Day:  0.04
  • Content Count:  14,350
  • Content Per Day:  3.08
  • Reputation:   16,737
  • Days Won:  30
  • Joined:  08/14/2012
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

We are born once of the flesh, and once of the Spirit. We can backslide and rededicate our lives to God, but we are just a prodigal and still a son. or daughter. And no one can take them out of God's hand. We are eternally secure as long as we want to be.

Yet there are many warnings about leaving God. Should we totally reject our salvation, reject the beautiful work of the Holy Spirit saying it is of satan, go into idolitry or some other heathen religion or otherwise renounce the work of Christ on the cross, we are warned against having our name blotted out of the Book of Life or becomming a reprobate. That sounds pretty final. By that time we would not even care. God will try to reclaim His lost sheep till our dying breath, is my personal belief. Some of these people have gone on to form cults and create false doctrine to deceive others. Some say they were never God's to begin with, which is probably true. Those who endure to the end shall be saved. Still, we are warned not to do these things. From our perspective we should be vigilant, to not let ouselves become luke warm, to beware of false doctrine, and to work out our own salvations with fear and trembling.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • You are coming up higher in this season – above the assignments of character assassination and verbal arrows sent to manage you, contain you, and derail your purpose. Where you have had your dreams and sleep robbed, as well as your peace and clarity robbed – leaving you feeling foggy, confused, and heavy – God is, right now, bringing freedom back -- now you will clearly see the smoke and mirrors that were set to distract you and you will disengage.

      Right now God is declaring a "no access zone" around you, and your enemies will no longer have any entry point into your life. Oil is being poured over you to restore the years that the locust ate and give you back your passion. This is where you will feel a fresh roar begin to erupt from your inner being, and a call to leave the trenches behind and begin your odyssey in your Christ calling moving you to bear fruit that remains as you minister to and disciple others into their Christ identity.

      This is where you leave the trenches and scale the mountain to fight from a different place, from victory, from peace, and from rest. Now watch as God leads you up higher above all the noise, above all the chaos, and shows you where you have been seated all along with Him in heavenly places where you are UNTOUCHABLE. This is where you leave the soul fight, and the mind battle, and learn to fight differently.

      You will know how to live like an eagle and lead others to the same place of safety and protection that God led you to, which broke you out of the silent prison you were in. Put your war boots on and get ready to fight back! Refuse to lay down -- get out of bed and rebuke what is coming at you. Remember where you are seated and live from that place.

      Acts 1:8 - “But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses … to the end of the earth.”

       

      ALBERT FINCH MINISTRY
        • Thanks
        • This is Worthy
        • Thumbs Up
      • 3 replies
    • George Whitten, the visionary behind Worthy Ministries and Worthy News, explores the timing of the Simchat Torah War in Israel. Is this a water-breaking moment? Does the timing of the conflict on October 7 with Hamas signify something more significant on the horizon?

       



      This was a message delivered at Eitz Chaim Congregation in Dallas Texas on February 3, 2024.

      To sign up for our Worthy Brief -- https://worthybrief.com

      Be sure to keep up to date with world events from a Christian perspective by visiting Worthy News -- https://www.worthynews.com

      Visit our live blogging channel on Telegram -- https://t.me/worthywatch
      • 0 replies
    • Understanding the Enemy!

      I thought I write about the flip side of a topic, and how to recognize the attempts of the enemy to destroy lives and how you can walk in His victory!

      For the Apostle Paul taught us not to be ignorant of enemy's tactics and strategies.

      2 Corinthians 2:112  Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. 

      So often, we can learn lessons by learning and playing "devil's" advocate.  When we read this passage,

      Mar 3:26  And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. 
      Mar 3:27  No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strongman; and then he will spoil his house. 

      Here we learn a lesson that in order to plunder one's house you must first BIND up the strongman.  While we realize in this particular passage this is referring to God binding up the strongman (Satan) and this is how Satan's house is plundered.  But if you carefully analyze the enemy -- you realize that he uses the same tactics on us!  Your house cannot be plundered -- unless you are first bound.   And then Satan can plunder your house!

      ... read more
      • 230 replies
    • Daniel: Pictures of the Resurrection, Part 3

      Shalom everyone,

      As we continue this study, I'll be focusing on Daniel and his picture of the resurrection and its connection with Yeshua (Jesus). 

      ... read more
      • 13 replies
    • Abraham and Issac: Pictures of the Resurrection, Part 2
      Shalom everyone,

      As we continue this series the next obvious sign of the resurrection in the Old Testament is the sign of Isaac and Abraham.

      Gen 22:1  After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, "Abraham!" And he said, "Here I am."
      Gen 22:2  He said, "Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you."

      So God "tests" Abraham and as a perfect picture of the coming sacrifice of God's only begotten Son (Yeshua - Jesus) God instructs Issac to go and sacrifice his son, Issac.  Where does he say to offer him?  On Moriah -- the exact location of the Temple Mount.

      ...read more
      • 20 replies
×
×
  • Create New...