Women pastors

[WayneB]

NB. This post was written in reply to Wayne B but because the topic has moved on, it is not apparent.

It is not an issue of censorship. It is an issue of grace and discretion.

1 Cor 2:3,4 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed: But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience...

Is it too much to ask to temper our words?

[BrotherJohnf]

I agree. Well spoken Vickilynn.

Brother John, this is a public discussion board read by many including young and old alike. Please be less graphic in your choice of words. Although you may be making some good points, you lose ground in your arguement by offending. Maybe that is why your threads have been shut down on other discussion boards? Please review our Terms of Service and ensure your choice of words do not offend and are suitable for all ages. As a moderator, we are committed to ensuring and enforcing a safe and healthy fellowship for everyone.

I hope you receive this in the spirit it is intended.

May the Lord Bless you richly,

wayne, your servant

[Vickilynn]

2 Corinthians 8

7 But as you excel in everything

[methinkshe]

NB. This post was written in reply to Wayne B but because the topic has moved on, it is not apparent.

It is not an issue of censorship. It is an issue of grace and discretion.

1 Cor 2:3,4 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed: But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience...

Is it too much to ask to temper our words?

Of course not! It is absolutely required! So could someone please tell me how one is meant to speak of harlots and harlotry - terms that are so frequently mentioned in the Bible - in modern parlance? For instance, we no longer talk of yeomen, we speak of farmers. However, if cultural sensitivity demands that harlots have to be harlots even though the term is archaic and colloquially obsolete, then so be it. I am only asking for information so that I shall not cause offence.

Ruth

[Vickilynn]

Shalom Ruth,

Harlot is a less offensive word meaning the same as the "w" word. In fact, several translations use it.

[Smalcald]

Is the topic of women being pastors, elders, deacons or teachers something that is forbidden to be discussed on this board? I have done many searches and all the threads on this issue seem to have been closed for various reasons. I cannot believe that this is a topic that no one is interested in, especially by the number of posts in those closed threads. So what gives? If people are not able to discuss this issue calmly and lovingly then would that not be a reflection on the person themselves rather than the topic? I understand that any Christian discussion board would want to prevent profanity and abuse, but I cannot believe that any Christian would be in favor of the censorship of the discussion of ideas. If that it the case then I guess I will continue my journey in search of a Christian board which holds dear the concepts of free speech and thought.

Well I think that it has just been totally covered on this board numerous times. Once the scriptural cases are made, and they have been; what is there to discuss? From that point the discussion just degenerates.

Why play with a dead mouse.

People are going to believe what they want. My congregation does not ordain women and will not in the future, and basis this on very clear and strong scriptural guidance. But we all know the scriptures which discuss who should be ordained, after reading those I don't know what else there is to discuss?

[BrotherJohnf]

Shalom Ruth,

Harlot is a less offensive word meaning the same as the "w" word. In fact, several translations use it.

Boggle

[WayneB]

My impression is that threads on the topic ARE allowed, (and please correct me if I am wrong, mods) but when they descend into vain quarrels, the mods rightly close them down because they are not glorifying to our Lord Jesus.

Exactly. Vain quarrels over the use of a word.

I like what brother Paul wrote when he puts offending in context: 1 Cor 9:22 To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some.

Edited July 21, 2007 by Wayne B.

[firehill]

But we all know the scriptures which discuss who should be ordained, after reading those I don't know what else there is to discuss?

Yes we do!

Never women

Never unmarried men

Never unmarried men without children

And if a husband's wife dies who is a pastor then he needs to step down too! It's so simple.

Yes, we know, don't we!

[OopsMartin]

I was not aware that sound teaching of God's Word was a "competition".

Is it easilyrealized how ridiculous this sounds? Yeah, the IC debating over who gets to teach God's word. Embarrasing.

That made me smile. How strange Christians must look to non Christians over this topic.

Reminds me of the extreme Muslim practices of women living their lives through a mesh window in the blanket they have to wear over their whole body. Did you know that faction doesn't let their women work, so if a woman (including mothers with children) are kicked out or their husband dies, they are reduced to begging as their only means of support.

Wow............what a stretch----------------- apples to apples at least please.

Actually it is more relevant than you think. What do you think their reasoning is.......

1. men are to be the leaders, teachers, directors, the inflencers of the world, etc.

2. women need to be protected, led, directed

3. women are easily deceived

4. women are the weaker sex