Are we digging to deep?

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Like another poster said, I don't think about it. I wouldn't recommend that anyone see a shrink. From what I've heard, most of them just want to get inside your head and try to put a label on you that probably isn't accurate to begin with...

I don't think it's right to lump all psychiatrists into the same boat like that. There are some hacks out there, to be sure, but there are also some who genuinely desire to help and do everything they can for their patients. I don't recommend anyone just flip open the yellow pages and take the first psychiatrist they see...research, research, research! Get recommendations, read their policies, etc. etc. etc. Of course, any Christian receiving counselling should be seeing a (reputable, researched) Christian counsellor, if you ask me, because Christianity is so much a factor in our lives.

I don't think one should lump that decision into a conclusive Christian arena. If we were discussing surgery I would shiver to think that we would limit ourselves to only consider a Christian person to perform surgery where there are others that are more qualified to perform the job.

I see little difference in a person that performs brain surgery and a person that attempts to repair mental illness. Both require skill and training.

I know of some Christian so called leaders that could use some heavy refresher courses in their carrier fields and I would shiver to think that someone would approach them seeking mental help.

As with any doctor, you research until you find a good one. If anything, Christian doctors have the edge on secular ones, the GOOD Christian doctors, because they have an open mind to spirituality that secular doctors are not allowed to take into consideration.

[Iryssa]

Like another poster said, I don't think about it. I wouldn't recommend that anyone see a shrink. From what I've heard, most of them just want to get inside your head and try to put a label on you that probably isn't accurate to begin with...

I don't think it's right to lump all psychiatrists into the same boat like that. There are some hacks out there, to be sure, but there are also some who genuinely desire to help and do everything they can for their patients. I don't recommend anyone just flip open the yellow pages and take the first psychiatrist they see...research, research, research! Get recommendations, read their policies, etc. etc. etc. Of course, any Christian receiving counselling should be seeing a (reputable, researched ) Christian counsellor, if you ask me, because Christianity is so much a factor in our lives.

I don't think one should lump that decision into a conclusive Christian arena. If we were discussing surgery I would shiver to think that we would limit ourselves to only consider a Christian person to perform surgery where there are others that are more qualified to perform the job.

I see little difference in a person that performs brain surgery and a person that attempts to repair mental illness. Both require skill and training.

I know of some Christian so called leaders that could use some heavy refresher courses in their carrier fields and I would shiver to think that someone would approach them seeking mental help.

I DID say a reputable and well-researched counsellor, did I not? (see the bolded part) I don't think you should go for just any Christian counsellor just because they're Christians either.

[Fraught]

PSYCHOLOGY

are we digging to deep into our own minds?

do you think god wanted us to be going so far into ourselves? if so why is there never a conclusion?

people may see a psychiatrist but there is never a cure only discussion? or medication but thats not a cure!!!!

does anyone else think its too dangerous to open a human mind?

I believe in regeneration of our mind to give us the Christ-mind. In this case I thought the mind had to be rooted out. We can find some things in there that are not very pretty. There are things about ourselves that we do not want to face. I think that could be dangerous if we are not ready to face it or do not have the proper support. It helps me to think of my mind as a garden that starts up when you get saved. God wants to grow a beautiful flower but he must get rid of all the weeds. For a long time I just let my garden grow up all over the place. I never tended it. When I began to tend it I was shocked to find so many weeds all over the place. I go to plant some daisy seeds and drat there's that greed weed still there. Get rid of it and along comes the selfish weed. I found the root of the 'self pity' weed when i relived the pain of being bullied in school and replaced it with

"Isaiah 62:4

Never again will you be called

[Fraught]

PSYCHOLOGY

are we digging to deep into our own minds?

do you think god wanted us to be going so far into ourselves? if so why is there never a conclusion?

people may see a psychiatrist but there is never a cure only discussion? or medication but thats not a cure!!!!

does anyone else think its too dangerous to open a human mind?

I believe in regeneration of our mind to give us the Christ-mind. In this case I thought the mind had to be rooted out. We can find some things in there that are not very pretty. There are things about ourselves that we do not want to face. I think that could be dangerous if we are not ready to face it or do not have the proper support. It helps me to think of my mind as a garden that starts up when you get saved. God wants to grow a beautiful flower but he must get rid of all the weeds. For a long time I just let my garden grow up all over the place. I never tended it. When I began to tend it I was shocked to find so many weeds all over the place. I go to plant some daisy seeds and drat there's that greed weed still there. Get rid of it and along comes the selfish weed. I found the root of the 'self pity' weed when i relived the pain of being bullied in school and replaced it with

"Isaiah 62:4

Never again will you be called

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Ec 1:17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.

Ec 2:12 And I turned myself to behold wisdom, and madness, and folly: for what can the man do that cometh after the king? even that which hath been already done.

Ec 7:25 I applied mine heart to know, and to search, and to seek out wisdom, and the reason of things, and to know the wickedness of folly, even of foolishness and madness:

Ec 9:3 This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.

The above reference "heart" and "spirit" conditions.

In His Love,

Suzanne

The first truth one must realize is that the body is not distinct from the soul. Because the body has the senses that feed the soul. I think there are 5 senses touch, smell, sight, taste, sound.

A mental condition is not of the body but of the soul unless the senses of the body are restrained either by chemical or physical failure a mental condition is of the soul.

That is what makes humans different from animals. Our ability to reason using our senses. That is why we cannot prosecute those that cannot make rational decisions within our courts.

Jesus cast out a legion of devils that controlled the mind of a man.

Luke 8:35 Then they went out to see what was done; and came to Jesus, and found the man, out of whom the devils were departed, sitting at the feet of Jesus, clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

Notice that the man is now "In his right mind".

So mental illness can be of the body caused by the senses or can be a direct result of possession.

There are other aspects that should be considered also. Some humans like to folly and rake havoc on other humans for personal pleasure. That is what we call just plain old everyday evil people.

In regards to your statement - "So mental illness can be of the body caused by the senses"

This is a very intelligent and helpful way to look at it. It illuminates the need for us to control our 'flesh' (our senses). and even tho this is something that as christians we know, the way you put it really lights it up for me. so thanks

[artsylady]

Proverbs 1:5

A wise man will hear and will increase learning. And a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels.

I think we can easily conclude that wise counsels would be Biblical.