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Joe - I have no problem with the scripture you have quoted. It is the way that the Word to Jesus to God is commonly interpreted that I disagree with.

Mutzrein,

Forgive me if I have misunderstood what you have posted, but honestly if Jesus wasn't GOD in the flesh then his sacrifice on the cross was meaningless and you are still dead in your sins, there is only ONE savior and that is GOD. Jesus is Yahweh.

I don't think you misunderstood the intent of what I was saying. Scripture tells us that Jesus was in the image of God. He reflected God in all things being obedient to Him in all he said and did. Being in the image of God and actually BEING God in the flesh are not one and the same thing. And being in the image of God does not make him imperfect. He was the spotless lamb OF God.

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Josh May I ask you. Do you make any differentation between the Father and the Son?

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The same differentiation that I make between water, ice and vapor, it's all water, just different forms.


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Thanks Josh / Wayne for your posts.

Do you guys believe that accepting that Jesus is God is necessary for salvation?

Acts 16:31

31 So they said,


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Joe - I have no problem with the scripture you have quoted. It is the way that the Word to Jesus to God is commonly interpreted that I disagree with.

Mutzrein,

Forgive me if I have misunderstood what you have posted, but honestly if Jesus wasn't GOD in the flesh then his sacrifice on the cross was meaningless and you are still dead in your sins, there is only ONE savior and that is GOD. Jesus is Yahweh.

I don't think you misunderstood the intent of what I was saying. Scripture tells us that Jesus was in the image of God. He reflected God in all things being obedient to Him in all he said and did. Being in the image of God and actually BEING God in the flesh are not one and the same thing. And being in the image of God does not make him imperfect. He was the spotless lamb OF God.

john20:28 Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

so is Thomas wrong in saying this?


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Joe - I have no problem with the scripture you have quoted. It is the way that the Word to Jesus to God is commonly interpreted that I disagree with.

Mutzrein,

Forgive me if I have misunderstood what you have posted, but honestly if Jesus wasn't GOD in the flesh then his sacrifice on the cross was meaningless and you are still dead in your sins, there is only ONE savior and that is GOD. Jesus is Yahweh.

I don't think you misunderstood the intent of what I was saying. Scripture tells us that Jesus was in the image of God. He reflected God in all things being obedient to Him in all he said and did. Being in the image of God and actually BEING God in the flesh are not one and the same thing. And being in the image of God does not make him imperfect. He was the spotless lamb OF God.

Mutzrein,

Thanks for your reply, im glad I got it right :whistling: . Scripture indeed tells us that He was the image of the invisible GOD, he is the express image of his glory (Hebrews 1:3), however there is an abundance amount of scripture that points to Jesus Christ is indeed GOD and its extremely important that he was GOD, because if he wasn't then scripture will contradict itself, but he was and ill show you in scripture that indeed he was GOD :mgfrog:.

"I and my Father are One." (John 10:30) Jesus here in this text, our LORD is NOT saying that He and the Father are one in the same person but ONE in nature (Deity). Meaning he was GOD. If we keep reading John's account we see that the Jew's present did not misunderstand what he was saying, for scripture tells us they picked up stones and attempted to stone Him and give a reason why they did. The Jews answered Him, saying,


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Joe - I have no problem with the scripture you have quoted. It is the way that the Word to Jesus to God is commonly interpreted that I disagree with.

Mutzrein,

Forgive me if I have misunderstood what you have posted, but honestly if Jesus wasn't GOD in the flesh then his sacrifice on the cross was meaningless and you are still dead in your sins, there is only ONE savior and that is GOD. Jesus is Yahweh.

I don't think you misunderstood the intent of what I was saying. Scripture tells us that Jesus was in the image of God. He reflected God in all things being obedient to Him in all he said and did. Being in the image of God and actually BEING God in the flesh are not one and the same thing. And being in the image of God does not make him imperfect. He was the spotless lamb OF God.

john20:28 Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

so is Thomas wrong in saying this?

Nope not at all, he was indeed GOD. This text is just another example of how his own disciples called Him GOD, and he even received worship from men, because he was GOD. :whistling:


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Joe - I have no problem with the scripture you have quoted. It is the way that the Word to Jesus to God is commonly interpreted that I disagree with.

Mutzrein,

Forgive me if I have misunderstood what you have posted, but honestly if Jesus wasn't GOD in the flesh then his sacrifice on the cross was meaningless and you are still dead in your sins, there is only ONE savior and that is GOD. Jesus is Yahweh.

I don't think you misunderstood the intent of what I was saying. Scripture tells us that Jesus was in the image of God. He reflected God in all things being obedient to Him in all he said and did. Being in the image of God and actually BEING God in the flesh are not one and the same thing. And being in the image of God does not make him imperfect. He was the spotless lamb OF God.

Mutzrein,

Thanks for your reply, im glad I got it right :thumbsup: . Scripture indeed tells us that He was the image of the invisible GOD, he is the express image of his glory (Hebrews 1:3), however there is an abundance amount of scripture that points to Jesus Christ is indeed GOD and its extremely important that he was GOD, because if he wasn't then scripture will contradict itself, but he was and ill show you in scripture that indeed he was GOD :).

"I and my Father are One." (John 10:30) Jesus here in this text, our LORD is NOT saying that He and the Father are one in the same person but ONE in nature (Deity). Meaning he was GOD. If we keep reading John's account we see that the Jew's present did not misunderstand what he was saying, for scripture tells us they picked up stones and attempted to stone Him and give a reason why they did. The Jews answered Him, saying,

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Joe - I have no problem with the scripture you have quoted. It is the way that the Word to Jesus to God is commonly interpreted that I disagree with.
:rolleyes:

High God Their Redeemer

And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.
Psalms 78:35

Christ The Redeemer

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Galatians 3:13

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Yes

I Understand

One Of My Dearest Friends Is A "Oneness" Believer

The More We Shared Scripture, The More I Came To Love Him

That Dear Man Is In My Heart And In My Prayers

The Holy Spirit Will Teach Him Or Not

The LORD Jesus Is My God

My LORD And My KING

My Peace And My Joy

My Brother

Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Romans 1:19-20

My Friend Can Only See The Father Without The Holy Godhead

From Genesis Through Revelation I Clearly See God, The Father - The Son - The Holy Spirit

No Amount of Scripture Would Change My Dear Friend's Long Held Belief

He Doesn't Know Jesus As The Fullness Of The Godhead Bodily

As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:

Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Colossians 2:6-10

We Are Saved By Faith In The Blood Shed For The Remission Of Sin.

I Do Not Understand This Rejection Of The LORD Jesus Christ As God In The Flesh.

Are You Afraid Of Losing Your Salvation If You Agree With The Bible And Include Jesus And The Holy Ghost In The Godhead?

You Are Teaching The LORD Jesus Is Just A Human When The Bible Clearly Show Him As Both Man And As God With Us.

I Trust God With All My Heart And Soul And I Trust The Holy Ghost Will Teach My Beloved Brothers.

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

John 14:16-18

And Open Their Eyes To See Jesus, The Image Of God

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2 Corinthians 4:4

I Think You Believe The LORD Jesus Is Just A Man

My Heart Goes Out To You And To Your Fellow Believers Who Have Only Half Of The Way, The Truth And The Life

By His Grace Beloved Brother We'll Meet Again

:noidea:

My Assurance

My Savior

My Jesus

My God

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:24-25

See Jesus And Be Blessed

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them.

Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Joe


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So have we finally become aware of the triple nature of the Godhead?


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So have we finally become aware of the triple nature of the Godhead?

I hope so :emot-hug:, this pretty much convinces me by the power and enlightenment of the Holy Spirit: "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." 1 John 5:7 (NKJV)

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