Gods "Plan" for your life

[Joshua-777]

Rhema is not an extrabiblical concept!

Take a gander: http://ati.iblp.org/ati/family/articles/concepts/rhema/

Have you read the site you linked? The instances and usage of "rhema" in the Greek text is not speaking of some special revelation given to somehow alter (or specify in a different context) Scripture, it's simply talking about God's spoken word. I should correct myself and say that the context in which you use "rhema" is extra-biblical.

No it's not.

Prove it.

God's written Word is totally relevant to every age and every person. Yes Jeremiah was prophesying to Israel. Yes, God is speaking to us. Yes, God is specifically speaking to me--that is Rhema.

On point one, you're right. On point two, you're right. On point three, you're right, but not in the context that you use it. On point four, you're absolutely wrong.

That is how God's Word meets us where we are at! That is how God speaks to each one of us!

No, He meets us where we are through study and worship. He speaks to each one of us likewise. Taking Scripture out of context and trying to apply it somehow is dishonest and, honestly, dangerous, especially when one's entire theology is based upon it.

That is why God calls it "living and active".

Where?

It's the Holy Spirit working through the written Word to make it come alive to my heart and provoke change in me...and you.

So, tell me. Does Revelation 22:18 mean anything to you?

I don't mean to butt in to this convo, but I do believe that God uses his word in our lives, the Holy Spirit brings up passages in our hearts, I never used the word Rhema, but I do know that the Lord has done that many times in my life.

Luke 12:12

12 For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.

[RedNick261]

You display a lack of knowledge about the Word of God, if you haven't any familiarity with this verse...

Hebrews 4:12

For the Word that God speaks is alive and full of power [making it active, operative, energizing, and effective]; it is sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating to the dividing line of the breath of life (soul) and [the immortal] spirit, and of joints and marrow [of the deepest parts of our nature], exposing and sifting and analyzing and judging the very thoughts and purposes of the heart.

The verse doesn't say that the Word can somehow say something that it doesn't say, though. The original intention is still the intention, even 2,000, 3,500 or 5,000 years after it was written. Just because it is alive and active doesn't mean that it is maleable.

Of course God meets us through study and worship! Don't forget to add prayer. That is two-way commubication with God.

You're right. I consider prayer a part of worship, some do not. I apologize for any confusion my statement may have caused.

With regard to your Revelation 22:18 crack..you have no idea what I am talking about, do you? Instead of running off and declaring people WRONG, why don't you ask them what they mean?

I do understand what you're talking about. You're saying that Jeremiah 29:11 (among other verses) can be pulled from their context to mean something "special" to you today. Basically, what you're saying is that God's Word is somehow able to be applied to one's own life in a way other than that it was originally intended. This is a false assertion and you WOULD be adding or changing God's Word, which is exactly what Revelation 22:18 speaks of.

Read the links I gave, ask about it. There is no error there. The Word of God is alive and powerful and active in our lives to do His work in us, and to powerfully enable us to follow after Jesus Christ, and to share the Word with authority. It changes us from the inside out.

I have no qualms with what you've said above, however what you and the website are asserting is different in context. What makes you think (given a Biblical basis or otherwise) that God's word somehow changes to suit an individual person? I wouldn't argue if it were some command to love or something like that, but on a matter of doctrine, it is unsafe to form it based on a maleated misinterpretation of a verse out of context.

[Joshua-777]

When He is ready to change my mind, I will be ready to accept Jesus as my personal Saviour. It's that simple. And He won't let me down either.

I don't understand.. how can you have so much trust in a god you don't believe in?

If you are willing to trust your life and everlasting soul into that now, why can't you accept and trust that Jesus is God now and then let God transform your mind more and more thereafter, so then you can come into better understanding by the power of the Holy Spirit?

You must have missed what I wrote. I did all that already. And it is up to god, just what you just posted there, to change my thinking. You said everything I have said. Again, God must have a plan for me since my mind doesn't believe any of this stuff. Some people here disagree but they are confused. It's ok, they are good people and god loves them too.

sup justaguy,

[RedNick261]

FloatingAxe (and josh-13, if you are saying what it seemed that you were):

If God has given us specific directions and wisdom through the Proverbs, the Gospels, Paul and the other epistles... why do we need to create it in places where it is not intended? Once again, it is not a safe decision to base doctrine (such as that "God has a wonderful plan for your life!" on out-of-context verses).

[Joshua-777]

I do understand what you're talking about. You're saying that Jeremiah 29:11 (among other verses) can be pulled from their context to mean something "special" to you today. Basically, what you're saying is that God's Word is somehow able to be applied to one's own life in a way other than that it was originally intended. This is a false assertion and you WOULD be adding or changing God's Word, which is exactly what Revelation 22:18 speaks of.

I agree with what your saying here, but it's not exactly what I'm referring to. What I mean is that the Lord has used verses for me to give others, and put verses on my mind that apply to my life, I don't believe in twisting the meaning of the verse to fit your life, but I do believe that God uses his Word to speak to our hearts, like one day I was going through some trials and God put James 1:2-6 on my mind, and it fit with the situation, sometimes I've witnessed to people and the Lord gave me knowledge on verses I don't remember reading, he just brought them to my mind and put them on my heart.

[Joshua-777]

FloatingAxe (and josh-13, if you are saying what it seemed that you were):

If God has given us specific directions and wisdom through the Proverbs, the Gospels, Paul and the other epistles... why do we need to create it in places where it is not intended? Once again, it is not a safe decision to base doctrine (such as that "God has a wonderful plan for your life!" on out-of-context verses).

I believe God has a will for our lives, but I also believe we have the free will to chose his will, we can live by our will, or Gods will for our lives.

[Joshua-777]

Hey josh

Hey how've you been?

[RedNick261]

I agree with what your saying here, but it's not exactly what I'm referring to. What I mean is that the Lord has used verses for me to give others, and put verses on my mind that apply to my life, I don't believe in twisting the meaning of the verse to fit your life, but I do believe that God uses his Word to speak to our hearts, like one day I was going through some trials and God put James 1:2-6 on my mind, and it fit with the situation, sometimes I've witnessed to people and the Lord gave me knowledge on verses I don't remember reading, he just brought them to my mind and put them on my heart.

Ok . I think we're agreeing here .

I believe God has a will for our lives, but I also believe we have the free will to chose his will, we can live by our will, or Gods will for our lives.

Aaah, classic Arminianism. I guess the question I would have to ask for clarity is this: how specific do you believe God's will is for your life? And, how much control does He, in fact, exercise over it?

[Floatingaxe]

I agree with what your saying here, but it's not exactly what I'm referring to. What I mean is that the Lord has used verses for me to give others, and put verses on my mind that apply to my life, I don't believe in twisting the meaning of the verse to fit your life, but I do believe that God uses his Word to speak to our hearts, like one day I was going through some trials and God put James 1:2-6 on my mind, and it fit with the situation, sometimes I've witnessed to people and the Lord gave me knowledge on verses I don't remember reading, he just brought them to my mind and put them on my heart.

Ok . I think we're agreeing here .

I believe God has a will for our lives, but I also believe we have the free will to chose his will, we can live by our will, or Gods will for our lives.

Aaah, classic Arminianism. I guess the question I would have to ask for clarity is this: how specific do you believe God's will is for your life? And, how much control does He, in fact, exercise over it?

I agree with josh there as well. Twisting the Word of God is not anything near what I am mistakenly interpreted to have said.

When the words on the page pop up seem to come alive--that is Rhema--a specific and personal word to our heart.

As to RedNick's question:

God's will is very specific. He has as much control as you give him. It has to do with our surrender.

[kat8585]

You must have missed what I wrote. I did all that already. And it is up to god, just what you just posted there, to change my thinking. You said everything I have said. Again, God must have a plan for me since my mind doesn't believe any of this stuff. Some people here disagree but they are confused. It's ok, they are good people and god loves them too.

It sounds to me like you may be wanting to prove a point more than being surrendered completely to God. He will help you surrender fully if this is what you truly want, so He can transform your mind more and more. He will even help it be what you truly want, if you ask Him to. We can't even have any good desire without Him, or even repentence.