Need help; White Dove Ministries - anyone know if it?

[terter]

Paul Keith Davis has a very good attitude, demeanor, is humble, servant minded, etc.

[MeCajunboy]

Hm yes.. she assured me also that they were "lovely people" when my friend met them.. but this doesn't negate that they may have some weird doctrines!

I don't know what it is, but think when we imagine false prophets and the like, we assume they will be nasty horrible people and surely not that lovely couple from down the street! *shock horror*

What better deception than that of the nice folks?

(not say these people are false prophets, I'm just making a point!)

Cajun to Luke:::: I've been watching this congretation for a few years now, and while I don't see any major progression other than a few more followers each year, I also don't see much negative discernment in their ways. I do know that we are told, "You will know my people/leaders by their fruit." And with that in mind I have to wonder why this church is not sweeping the nation, if it had that much of God's leadership behind it. Again, always question the "Fruit" of their spirit" or "what they accomlish for God's Work." Not their own presonal benefit. If you would tell me that much of their proceeds go to the people of the city, which is in dire need, I would have a better discernment of them. I would just like to study them a bit more, as we have the rest of our lives to decide or fait.....AND NOT A DAY MORE !

I did discern however, that not much "scripture/verse" of the norm was upheld in their "mission statement," and the Theme of their home page. The mere fact that someone has a "vision" is not enough to maintain a church, as the "vision" could have possibly been a mere warning that they were to take heed to and warn the public for advance notice, instead of evolving a church which by the way was not mentioned in the mission statement of their "vision."

I'm sure their intentions are quite admirable, as they have not made any negative headlines in recent years as so many others have done, But there's nothing wrong with recommending to your friends to "test the waters" by visiting other churches and decide for themselves which one God directs them to. This will show your friends that you are not predujiced to any church as much as you are making logical determinations in their behalf...

Blessings

Cajun

[Zadok Rox]

I'm looking on the CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network) website regarding warning signs of a cult. Here's what the site says:

1) What does they think of Jesus? If anything or anyone is placed equal (or above) Jesus, watch out. Also, if they don't acknowledge Jesus or say that one can get into Heaven by some other means than Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, watch out.

2) Do they install fear into believers (i.e. - "If you leave our church, you'll go to hell")? Red flag.

3) Does the leader of the church or organization exalt him/herself or is exalted to the point of exclusive prophet or even deity? A true church exalts God and Jesus.

4) Do they try to keep members dependent on the church leader or the church itself (instead of being dependent on God)?

The site also notes there are other signs, but the four listed here are the most prominent.

Edited September 6, 2007 by Zadok Rox

[damo1]

from damo1

to mr luke i am still doing my best to get some feed back so far from what i have heard is that there is nothing funny about them yet tel your friend to test this as it says in 1john 4 to test the spirits

i wil be asking another person i know as they do a fair bit of research them selves on groups like this i also had a look at ther web sight and it explained nothing on what there misson state ment is as most churches have a misson state ment and this is given to you when you ask for it

what i have done is i sent them an email my self asking them to explain them selves and what they do as one friend told me they do a lot of restoration work by me saying this they work close with those that have been in minstry and have been hurt one friend said he knows of them and has found nothing funny about them and when he tells me he is telling the truth

i would hold of from being negative and just going by what is being said so far as if they are of god they are doing no harm and wolfs usaly come un stuck as we hear of this in australia wear many have come unstuc and so far nothing bad has been said about white dove ministries they are very prophetic by saying this apostolic as i have many apostolic friends hear in australia

yet i wil get back to you once i get more in sight on them

all your friend can do is test the waters

from damo1