Adstar Posted February 27, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 27, 2004 Hello Friends I have received an interesting question, i would like to put it to you and get your thoughts. Question: When does one receive forgiveness when one repents or when one is sorry for what one has done? I think the point of the question was to ask if you can be forgiven by acknowledging that you have done something wrong to God and asking for forgiveness while not understanding why it is wrong? All Praise The Ancient Of Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsitmean Posted February 27, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 881 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 27, 2004 Forgiveness was given 2000 years ago. It is received by the person and becomes their own the moment they ask. Their personal knowledge and experience of knowing they are forgiven may be moments after or weeks or never depending on their faith and acceptance of God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 27, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 27, 2004 When does one receive forgiveness when one repents or when one is sorry for what one has done? Depends on what you mean by sorry. I recall a line from Gone with the Wind: "You remind me of the thief who is sorry he got caught!" I think the point of the question was to ask if you can be forgiven by acknowledging that you have done something wrong to God and asking for forgiveness while not understanding why it is wrong? Again - kind of vague. I have appolgized to friends for having hurt them even though I didn't understand why they were hurt by what I did - just that I knew they were hurt, and I deeply regretted having hurt them. On the flip side, I had a friend tell me, "I'm sorry if I did anything to hurt you," but until I knew that he knew what he did that had left me crying my eyes out - how can I ever trust him? Does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 27, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,254 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,983 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 27, 2004 Hello Friends I have received an interesting question, i would like to put it to you and get your thoughts. Question: When does one receive forgiveness when one repents or when one is sorry for what one has done? I think the point of the question was to ask if you can be forgiven by acknowledging that you have done something wrong to God and asking for forgiveness while not understanding why it is wrong? All Praise The Ancient Of Days It would depend on whether or not that person was already a christian or not. A non christian could be sorry for his/her whole life and if they didn't confess the lordship of christ they will not be forgiven. If a person is a christian, I was taught that the Holy Spirit would convict you of the offence and you would be forgiven when you ask. I would think that there would not be more than 3 seconds between understanding you did something wrong and offended God, and asking for forgiveness. In that case what would the difference be. I would need an example of what a person could do to offend God, know that he/she had done it and it was an offence and not know why it is wrong. I don't think I understand the question fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted February 27, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 27, 2004 Ok i will try to give an example. Let Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted February 28, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Now the same New Christian engaged in sex with another mans wife he has found out through the Word that it is sin to do this. Now He does not understand why adultery is wrong he feels no remorse for doing it. But he believes in God and therefore whatever offends God is bad so he repents of what he has done. If you have a child who did something that was wrong (can't think of a creative example - I don't know, playing in the street or climbing on the counter or I don't know, think of something), and you told the child not to do it anymore ("Why?" "Because I said so." - LOL!), and the child no longer did what you told them not to do (obeyed and quit the activity), would you hold it against the child that the child did not understand? (Not sure if I am asking this right, but I hope you understand.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasangel Posted February 28, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 70 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,513 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 39 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/19/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/27/1959 Share Posted February 28, 2004 I believe that when you go to God and ask for forgiveness that you are in fact telling God you repent of your past misdeed. Thats when I believe God grants us the forgiveness of our sins. Kind of like parents. When your child comes to you and tells you he is truly sorry for what he or she did you do forgive that child for his transgression right? :hug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Stained Soul Posted February 28, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 353 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/25/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted February 28, 2004 We sin without even knowing we sin...can you remember very sin you commited?...just by being in the Adamic body we are sinning...Now I have repented and asked God to forgive me not knowing what I even did wrong..just askig God to forgive me of any unknown sin...hope I made sense...then again I may have missed the point all together myself....eh... If you ask God to frogive you in all sincerity...your forgiven... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Posted February 28, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 289 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/01/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1957 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Hello Friends When does one receive forgiveness when one repents or when one is sorry for what one has done? Is there a difference? Doesn't repentance mean being sorry....However does repentance mean you will not do the same again...and if you do and seek further forgivness from God thru Jesus...are you still forgiven ...and if you thru some human failing continue to sin over and over on this one issue...how many times will God forgive you?? Would it be a true statement to say that God will forgive you upon repentance but you will have to suffer the consequences of your sin. However from an athiests point of view...if they are seeking answers to this question... God may well be leading them to Him. To be forgiven for past misdeeds by your Maker is a powerful message... especially when linked to repentance. Blessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted February 29, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 29, 2004 Now the same New Christian engaged in sex with another mans wife he has found out through the Word that it is sin to do this. Now He does not understand why adultery is wrong he feels no remorse for doing it. But he believes in God and therefore whatever offends God is bad so he repents of what he has done. If you have a child who did something that was wrong (can't think of a creative example - I don't know, playing in the street or climbing on the counter or I don't know, think of something), and you told the child not to do it anymore ("Why?" "Because I said so." - LOL!), and the child no longer did what you told them not to do (obeyed and quit the activity), would you hold it against the child that the child did not understand? (Not sure if I am asking this right, but I hope you understand.) Neb i think you have got it girl. :hug: Thats a wonderful way of explaining things. I think I will use it on the athiest Thank you very much Sister All Praise The Ancient of Days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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