fall of lucifer need help to find something

[damo1]

from damo1

high i am going over some stuff for my self on the fall of lucifer and i need some one from worthy to tell me wear i can find the scriputer wear satan comes against the angel michael i heard it preached long time ago i have jotted down a lot of notes on the fall of lucifer and this would be handy for my self to have so if any one can help me i would be very great full

this is what i have high lighted in yellow in my bible

Ezekiel 23 12 = 17 Isaiah 1 - 4

Ezekiel 28 - 8 Isaiah 31 -2

Matthew 11- 23

Job 18-19 Psalm 21- 10

Psalm 109 -13

satan was once an angel called lucifer who was in love with his own beauty fel into pride and self senterdness his rebelion manifests five i wil statments

i wil ascend into heaven

i wil exult my throne above the stars of god

i wil also sit on the mount of the congregation

i wil ascend above the hights of the clouds

i wil be like the most high

i am reading from the new spirit filled open study bible i also have the niv and old kings james as well

and i can not find any wear that it tells me how michael the arch angel fought of satan is there a book that is only given out to pastors and its not in the bible

so i would be very great full for you more educated ones in worthy to help me as this is what i have been looking into my self as a study on the fal of lucifer

from damo1

[menegroth]

hi there i believe this is the verse your looking for we did a study awhile back during sunday school about this the verse is Jude 1: 9 is the only verse i know of that records it

[patricia1]

hi there i believe this is the verse your looking for we did a study awhile back during sunday school about this the verse is Jude 1: 9 is the only verse i know of that records it

Also dami..look into Dan. 10.. There is a lot more about michael although his name is not mentioned. you can recognize him according to his ministry. The description of what he does in representative of Jesus, Our God. As a cherub gives you the idea of what lucifer does and if you research lucifers kingdoms, michael set up to protect those kingdoms from lucifer as well. patricia1

[damo1]

from damo1

thank you to both of you as what you have jotted down for me is very helpful i am sort of doing this as a study plus notes for my self on the fall of lucifer and this is helpful as not many pastors preach on the fall of lucifer my old church did this and i should have had a note pad next to me jotting things down i wil go over what you gave me and put this in my note pad that i have

thanks

from damo1

[Axxman]

Hey damo1...

It should probably be pointed out that "Lucifer" is NOT Satan. Lucifer is the King of Babylon. The word 'lucifer" isn't even Hebrew...its latin. So when you read about the prideful and arrogant fall of Lucifer...you are actually reading about the fall of Nebuchadnezzar, who was given the name Lucifer by Jerome in the Latin Vulgate.

[damo1]

Hey damo1...

It should probably be pointed out that "Lucifer" is NOT Satan. Lucifer is the King of Babylon. The word 'lucifer" isn't even Hebrew...its latin. So when you read about the prideful and arrogant fall of Lucifer...you are actually reading about the fall of Nebuchadnezzar, who was given the name Lucifer by Jerome in the Latin Vulgate.

from damo1 hay axxman

thanks i appreciate this very much and i jotted this down in my note pad that i have its good to know this stuff

from damo1

[patricia1]

Hey damo1...

It should probably be pointed out that "Lucifer" is NOT Satan. Lucifer is the King of Babylon. The word 'lucifer" isn't even Hebrew...its latin. So when you read about the prideful and arrogant fall of Lucifer...you are actually reading about the fall of Nebuchadnezzar, who was given the name Lucifer by Jerome in the Latin Vulgate.

from damo1 hay axxman

thanks i appreciate this very much and i jotted this down in my note pad that i have its good to know this stuff

from damo1

axxman, so who is Lucifer. he also was over persia as well and many others...a demon worker for satan, His name in hebrew is helel.. Both names lucifer and helel means bearer of light. Isaiah 14 discusses his fall from heaven, sounds like the devil to me. patricia1

[ajesuschrist_mathetes]

pained to be delivered.

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.

Rev 12:7

[damo1]

from damo1

thanks for helping me out hear every one i did not want this to come into a full argument i am just seeking things for my self axxman i am aware of who satan is and i understood what you were trying to point out to me i am just going over some things for my self and heard this preached long time ago and i was talking with a friend in church and he said the same thing many pastors will not talk on the fall of lucifer or do a study like i am with church members

i am doing a fair bit of re search and jotting down a lot of things for my own personal use that is why i put this post up for some guidance i am grounded in gods word my self yet i find the more i read the bible and go over something in gods word i am always learning something new and its very refreshing for me and help full

so from me i thank you for those that have given me things to look at and jot down

blessings from damo1

[Hypathia]

In ancient Greece Lucifer was also the name for the planet we call Venus.

First, there was the moon in the orbit nearest the

earth, and next the sun, in the second orbit above the earth; then

came the morning star and the star sacred to Hermes, moving in

orbits which have an equal swiftness with the sun, but in an

opposite direction; and this is the reason why the sun and Hermes

and Lucifer overtake and are overtaken by each other.

From Plato's letter to Timaeus

http://www.greektexts.com/library/Plato/timaeus/eng/582.html