Somewhat Jealous of Islam

[Guest brother in the lord]

As long as we all agree that Jesus died on the cross, rose from the dead on the third day, for the sins of all mankind, and through him alone is salvation obtained......we'll be just fine.

So what your stating is we all unit under salvation partly true but not under unity! We will never see world wide revival until we are of one mind and one spirit says the LORD. I DID NOT SAY THIS HE DID.

I would be elated if all denominations could sit down at the table and agree on everything, that's called one mind with Christ.

The body of Christ is so divided and bogged down in mans teachings and not Gods. Jesus will never come back to this earth until his world is preached all over and is now Via T.V. radio etc. Here it is and his body has spot nor wrinkle, he also said this not me. How can this be if a house is divided?

Heres the problem: Are we going to do what the Bible says to do, or are we doing what we want the Bible to say?.

[rtwo]

Unity in Islam is an illusion. Why do you think there's such a problem in Iraq right now? Christians may disagree on certain points of human interpretation and doctrine... the various Muslim sects are killing each other over them. Go Unity!

[AnExample]

As long as we all agree that Jesus died on the cross, rose from the dead on the third day, for the sins of all mankind, and through him alone is salvation obtained......we'll be just fine.

So what your stating is we all unit under salvation partly true but not under unity! We will never see world wide revival until we are of one mind and one spirit says the LORD. I DID NOT SAY THIS HE DID.

I would be elated if all denominations could sit down at the table and agree on everything, that's called one mind with Christ.

The body of Christ is so divided and bogged down in mans teachings and not Gods. Jesus will never come back to this earth until his world is preached all over and is now Via T.V. radio etc. Here it is and his body has spot nor wrinkle, he also said this not me. How can this be if a house is divided?

One Lord, one faith, one baptism. Ephesians 4:4-6

We are to be one in the Spirit of Christ (unity) because we are the body of Christ. This is the unity we share. Christ unites us in that we are His bride/the Church...the church is His body and his bride. Belief in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is what sparks the unity. When you become a part of the body of believers it unites you to us and us to you. Now whether or not we agree that we shouldn't talk about one another, shouldn't fight one another, etc. has already been determined by Jesus Himself in the greatest commandments...to love the Lord our God with all our heart, within all our mind, with all our soul...and to love your neighbor as yourself. Remembering to keep the bond of peace at all cost. When we fail to do that we are walking in disobedience to God.

As people, there will never be unity. We will always find stuff to fight about. I meant that the ONLY true unity the entire body of Christ has is our belief in the sacrificial death, and resurrection of Jesus for the sins of all mankind.

(As people, there will never be unity).

You said this not me and that is what's partly wrong with us today. The bible Say's we will be of one mind and one spirit, now does this sound like unity? Sure does to me, give in and stop this nonsense. Either we lay down our lives for our brother and we lay down our lives for Christ or we are non of him!

As believers yes...we are to have unity. As people, nope. We will always disagree with each other. That's why there are a trillion denominations.

(Stop avoiding the remark I made! God said we would be of one mind and one spirit! Does this sound like a house divided)!

[Artemus Prime]

Yet another great example of taking one verse of Scripture completely out of context to make it suit an argument...real unity starts with real Scripture reading...

[backontrack]

Unity in Islam is an illusion. Why do you think there's such a problem in Iraq right now? Christians may disagree on certain points of human interpretation and doctrine... the various Muslim sects are killing each other over them. Go Unity!

I guess thats why 7,000,000 + Islamic people here are united unlike we are in the USA. You are talking about radical Islamics I am talking about the majority of Islam. Seems to me we should gather together and stop trying to say my religion of Christianity is right. I don't see Baptist Islam or Pentecostal Islam etc. In fact I have been in the presence of Islamic people from different countries and they embrace the same Koran! Without strife or argument and they all pray 5 times a day just about in sequence. Iraq you cannot compare them to Islam in general!

[EricH]

Somewhat Jealous of Islam:

Not the religion but the unity!

Can this be achieved in a Christian environment with some 2,000 different doctrines! Is the writing on the wall here mans involvement in changing and adding to Gods word. It is no wonder we cannot agree on much of anything.

Man need more input here! God really needs to intervene here to straighten us all out and get us back on track!

There are sects within Islam. They fight each other all the time

[Guest shiloh357]

Unity in Islam is an illusion. Why do you think there's such a problem in Iraq right now? Christians may disagree on certain points of human interpretation and doctrine... the various Muslim sects are killing each other over them. Go Unity!

I guess thats why 7,000,000 + Islamic people here are united unlike we are in the USA. You are talking about radical Islamics I am talking about the majority of Islam. Seems to me we should gather together and stop trying to say my religion of Christianity is right. I don't see Baptist Islam or Pentecostal Islam etc. In fact I have been in the presence of Islamic people from different countries and they embrace the same Koran! Without strife or argument and they all pray 5 times a day just about in sequence. Iraq you cannot compare them to Islam in general!

You obviously don't much about Islam. One only needs to study Islamic history to see that Muslims war against each other all the time.

There is NOTHING about Islam to be jealous of.

[yaqub]

Darul Salam (House of Peace) definitely looks very united on the outside. Yet ...

Muhammad died of poisoning

Caliph Umar, Othman, Ali (Muhammad's son-in-law) all died by assassination. Othman and Ali by the hands of other Muslims. Ali's sons were brutally murdered by other Muslims.

On the other hand, maybe this "unity" is what will persuade some people to become Muslims.

Edited October 11, 2007 by yaqub

[rtwo]

Unity in Islam is an illusion. Why do you think there's such a problem in Iraq right now? Christians may disagree on certain points of human interpretation and doctrine... the various Muslim sects are killing each other over them. Go Unity!

I guess thats why 7,000,000 + Islamic people here are united unlike we are in the USA. You are talking about radical Islamics I am talking about the majority of Islam. Seems to me we should gather together and stop trying to say my religion of Christianity is right. I don't see Baptist Islam or Pentecostal Islam etc. In fact I have been in the presence of Islamic people from different countries and they embrace the same Koran! Without strife or argument and they all pray 5 times a day just about in sequence. Iraq you cannot compare them to Islam in general!

You obviously don't much about Islam. One only needs to study Islamic history to see that Muslims war against each other all the time.

There is NOTHING about Islam to be jealous of.

Exactly. These aren't -extreme- Muslims. These are the Muslims in the areas where the religion was invented (that's right: Invented!). The only reason Muslims in the US, England, and the like arne't just as extreme as their brothers in the founding nations is because unlike the Saudis, Iraqis, Iranis, etc., the Western nations won't tolerate the stoning of those in dissent.

Furthermore, Baptists and Pentacostals also follow a single Bible ( ), so I'm not 100% sure what you're point is.

[eric]

Somewhat Jealous of Islam:

Not the religion but the unity!

Can this be achieved in a Christian environment with some 2,000 different doctrines! Is the writing on the wall here mans involvement in changing and adding to Gods word. It is no wonder we cannot agree on much of anything.

Man need more input here! God really needs to intervene here to straighten us all out and get us back on track!

EricH is right, backontrack, The Moslems worship allah, while christians worship the God of the bible. You will never change that. Everyone talks about a revival. A revival of what? Calvinists will never agree with Armenianists, Pre tribbers will never agree with with post tribbers. Besides God's word says that there will be an apostacy, not a revival.

I think the unity. that the bible mentions, is the unity of all christians is that Jesus Christ is the living Son of the Living God, through whom we are able to gain salvation. JMO