Massorite Posted November 30, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,973 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/26/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/13/1953 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Consider being a resident of Sodom before The LORD destroyed it AND having The Holy Bible. Consider living in the "Days of Noah"-Genesis 6:1- AND having The Holy Bible. Consider living in Germany during the 1940s during the Holocaust of the Jews. Consider living in this world/USA today-over 1.3 BILLION unborn babies have been murdered worldwide since the USA's Roe v Wade. Roughly 1 in 5 unborn babies in the USA are murdered, vivisected, with lots of evidence showing they do feel excrutiating pain. Consider being a baby in the womb, able to calculate the probably of being vivisected. THE LORD HATES "shedding of innocent blood"-an ABOMINATION. How many times does He tell us that in The Holy Bible? Cbrinfo.org gives the term "Indescribable Evil" to this-compares it to the lynching of blacks in the USA in the 19th and 20th centuries, to the Holocaust in Germany. We have The Holy Bible. We KNOW The LORD HATES abortion. Hates it. Think about the pain He feels. If we believe Jesus was Crucified for all that call upon Him, past-present-future until the end of the age, then think of Jesus on The Cross paying for the sins current [today] till the end of this age. Think of Him seeing us today. Reading our responses on a message board. We have no excuse. We cannot say we did not know, do not know. Again, for the nth time, consider/read/ACT ON Leonard Ravenhill's book from the 1970s-"Sodom Had No Bible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exd 32:6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play. 1Cr 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as [were] some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. I don't thing the problem of Sodom & Gomorrah was abortion! They would not have had the medical technology! The problem with Sodom and gomorrah is stated in Ezekiel: Eze 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fullness of bread, and prosperous ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. Eze 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. God mentioned 3 things that especially irritated him about Sodom and Gomorrah: pridefulness of breadprosperous easeThey were rich and full of pride, the sin that caused Lucifer to fall. They were proud and thought that all their wealth were self generated instead of a blessing from God. Fullness of bread means that they had more than abundant food and drink and never saw God as the provider! Prosperous ease, Sodom and Gomorrah had Bitumen in abundance which was a prized commodity! They sold it and was wealthy! In their wealth, they had nothing better to do than gossiped and had a lavacious lifestyle that did not glorify God. This is exactly what America did in the prosperous time where they had too much money! They squandered their money on thing that brought no glory to God. Imagine, God sees those three things as worse than homosexaulity! Again, for the nth time, consider/read/ACT ON Leonard Ravenhill's book from the 1970s-"Sodom Had No Bible." They may not have the Bible, they had Lot-who should have known better than adsorb their lifestyle with fervour! New creture New creature And lets not forghet the going after strange flesh part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted December 1, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Consider being a resident of Sodom before The LORD destroyed it AND having The Holy Bible. Consider living in the "Days of Noah"-Genesis 6:1- AND having The Holy Bible. Consider living in Germany during the 1940s during the Holocaust of the Jews. Consider living in this world/USA today-over 1.3 BILLION unborn babies have been murdered worldwide since the USA's Roe v Wade. Roughly 1 in 5 unborn babies in the USA are murdered, vivisected, with lots of evidence showing they do feel excrutiating pain. Consider being a baby in the womb, able to calculate the probably of being vivisected. THE LORD HATES "shedding of innocent blood"-an ABOMINATION. How many times does He tell us that in The Holy Bible? Cbrinfo.org gives the term "Indescribable Evil" to this-compares it to the lynching of blacks in the USA in the 19th and 20th centuries, to the Holocaust in Germany. We have The Holy Bible. We KNOW The LORD HATES abortion. Hates it. Think about the pain He feels. If we believe Jesus was Crucified for all that call upon Him, past-present-future until the end of the age, then think of Jesus on The Cross paying for the sins current [today] till the end of this age. Think of Him seeing us today. Reading our responses on a message board. We have no excuse. We cannot say we did not know, do not know. Again, for the nth time, consider/read/ACT ON Leonard Ravenhill's book from the 1970s-"Sodom Had No Bible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exd 32:6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play. 1Cr 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as [were] some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. I don't thing the problem of Sodom & Gomorrah was abortion! They would not have had the medical technology! The problem with Sodom and gomorrah is stated in Ezekiel: Eze 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fullness of bread, and prosperous ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. Eze 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. God mentioned 3 things that especially irritated him about Sodom and Gomorrah: pridefulness of breadprosperous easeThey were rich and full of pride, the sin that caused Lucifer to fall. They were proud and thought that all their wealth were self generated instead of a blessing from God. Fullness of bread means that they had more than abundant food and drink and never saw God as the provider! Prosperous ease, Sodom and Gomorrah had Bitumen in abundance which was a prized commodity! They sold it and was wealthy! In their wealth, they had nothing better to do than gossiped and had a lavacious lifestyle that did not glorify God. This is exactly what America did in the prosperous time where they had too much money! They squandered their money on thing that brought no glory to God. Imagine, God sees those three things as worse than homosexaulity! Again, for the nth time, consider/read/ACT ON Leonard Ravenhill's book from the 1970s-"Sodom Had No Bible." They may not have the Bible, they had Lot-who should have known better than adsorb their lifestyle with fervour! New creture New creature Dear givennewname: Do not understand your reply here at all. The LORD calls "shedding of innocent blood" an ABOMINATION {e.g. Proverbs 6:16-} which I said. The LORD states that ABOMINATION is one of the reasons He took Sodom away. Reviewed my notes from the year 2000 this morning-abortion/"shedding of innocent blood"/related from Genesis 1:1 thru Revelation 22:21. The Word of God is clear that life, in His eyes, starts BEFORE conception. Maybe focusing on this Scripture will help: Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. >>>>>>>>>> Abortion/murder is from the devil/Molech{"fire "God"" that The Holy Bible states that the Jews sacrificed their babies to to be burned alive.}. Maybe this will help more: 1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This also: Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. ... Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But back to the start of this-how to comprehend and deal with living in this Evil/wicked world? Close your eyes/ears {cannot hear the unborn and their "Silent Screams". Cannot smell their being incinerated as "medical waste" in this "Indiscribable Evil Holocaust" that has gone on in the USA since 1973}? They are still trying to really comprehend the Holocaust of The Jews in the 1940s, especially in Germany -how could "humans" be so wicked and how could the public have let this go on? And if you were a German living back then what would have been the right thing [in THE LORD's eyes] to do? What would you have done-what are you doing today??? Singing "God Bless America"???[did the December 26, 2004 9.3 Richter/Tsunami in Indonesia that literally SHOOK the planet mean a thing???] Psa 94:20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law? Psa 94:21 They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous, and condemn the innocent blood. ... Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givennewname Posted December 3, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 324 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/16/1964 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Consider being a resident of Sodom before The LORD destroyed it AND having The Holy Bible. Consider living in the "Days of Noah"-Genesis 6:1- AND having The Holy Bible. Consider living in Germany during the 1940s during the Holocaust of the Jews. Consider living in this world/USA today-over 1.3 BILLION unborn babies have been murdered worldwide since the USA's Roe v Wade. Roughly 1 in 5 unborn babies in the USA are murdered, vivisected, with lots of evidence showing they do feel excrutiating pain. Consider being a baby in the womb, able to calculate the probably of being vivisected. THE LORD HATES "shedding of innocent blood"-an ABOMINATION. How many times does He tell us that in The Holy Bible? Cbrinfo.org gives the term "Indescribable Evil" to this-compares it to the lynching of blacks in the USA in the 19th and 20th centuries, to the Holocaust in Germany. We have The Holy Bible. We KNOW The LORD HATES abortion. Hates it. Think about the pain He feels. If we believe Jesus was Crucified for all that call upon Him, past-present-future until the end of the age, then think of Jesus on The Cross paying for the sins current [today] till the end of this age. Think of Him seeing us today. Reading our responses on a message board. We have no excuse. We cannot say we did not know, do not know. Again, for the nth time, consider/read/ACT ON Leonard Ravenhill's book from the 1970s-"Sodom Had No Bible." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exd 32:6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play. 1Cr 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as [were] some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. I don't thing the problem of Sodom & Gomorrah was abortion! They would not have had the medical technology! The problem with Sodom and Gomorrah is stated in Ezekiel: Eze 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fullness of bread, and prosperous ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. Eze 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. God mentioned 3 things that especially irritated him about Sodom and Gomorrah: pridefulness of breadprosperous easeThey were rich and full of pride, the sin that caused Lucifer to fall. They were proud and thought that all their wealth were self generated instead of a blessing from God. Fullness of bread means that they had more than abundant food and drink and never saw God as the provider! Prosperous ease, Sodom and Gomorrah had Bitumen in abundance which was a prized commodity! They sold it and was wealthy! In their wealth, they had nothing better to do than gossiped and had a lavacious lifestyle that did not glorify God. This is exactly what America did in the prosperous time where they had too much money! They squandered their money on thing that brought no glory to God. Imagine, God sees those three things as worse than homosexaulity! Again, for the nth time, consider/read/ACT ON Leonard Ravenhill's book from the 1970s-"Sodom Had No Bible." They may not have the Bible, they had Lot-who should have known better than adsorb their lifestyle with fervour! New creature New creature Dear givennewname: Do not understand your reply here at all. The LORD calls "shedding of innocent blood" an ABOMINATION {e.g. Proverbs 6:16-} which I said. The LORD states that ABOMINATION is one of the reasons He took Sodom away. Reviewed my notes from the year 2000 this morning-abortion/"shedding of innocent blood"/related from Genesis 1:1 thru Revelation 22:21. The Word of God is clear that life, in His eyes, starts BEFORE conception. Maybe focusing on this Scripture will help: Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. >>>>>>>>>> Abortion/murder is from the devil/Molech{"fire "God"" that The Holy Bible states that the Jews sacrificed their babies to to be burned alive.}. Maybe this will help more: 1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This also: Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. ... Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But back to the start of this-how to comprehend and deal with living in this Evil/wicked world? Close your eyes/ears {cannot hear the unborn and their "Silent Screams". Cannot smell their being incinerated as "medical waste" in this "Indiscribable Evil Holocaust" that has gone on in the USA since 1973}? They are still trying to really comprehend the Holocaust of The Jews in the 1940s, especially in Germany -how could "humans" be so wicked and how could the public have let this go on? And if you were a German living back then what would have been the right thing [in THE LORD's eyes] to do? What would you have done-what are you doing today??? Singing "God Bless America"???[did the December 26, 2004 9.3 Richter/Tsunami in Indonesia that literally SHOOK the planet mean a thing???] Psa 94:20 Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law? Psa 94:21 They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous, and condemn the innocent blood. ... Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Dear ajesuschrist_mathetes, Greetings in the name of the Lord, I never said that abortion is acceptable t a christian! I am just saying that abortion is not a sin that Sodom and Gomorrah indulged in which was what the discussion topic was about. I agree with you. Abortion of little children is rather offensive to the Lord! I know as I work as an Obstetrician in the UK for many years where abortion is freely available as long as 2 doctors agree that the abortion request is reasonable, and mental distress is accepted as a perfectly valid reason for the request of an abortion just as social reasons of mother not desiring the pregnancy! But it is not a reason why the Lord is angry with Sodom and Gomorrah! The did not have the Medical technology to perform a procedure like that and it is not listed in the Bible as one of their sins. New Creature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted December 3, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Dear Givennewname: All I can do is ask you to read and pray about what you are replying to-maybe print off the posts/Scriptures. Your replies don't make any sense. The LORD HATES/ABOMINATION "shedding of innocent blood"{ which includes abortion}one of the reasons He gives for taking Sodom away. "they committed abomination".Please read those 2 verses in Ezekiel that I gave. It is not "rather offensive". Post you were replying to has Sodom then Days of Noah {seems like the world today} then Germany than USA/world today with the Word of God. Thank you, Ron... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Back to subject of this chain, trying to focus on the USA/World today using The Word of God: American-Blessed or Cursed? More and more, to me, the evidence says we {plus world} are Cursed. Find more and more matching between what many say is future. That Revelation 6-18 is future Tribulation/Great Tribulation. Not saying we are in The Tribulation nor agreeing/disagreeing with the commentaries re 7 year Tribulation. For what this is worth: the Allies intervened in 1945 to stop the Holocaust of the Jews. What else but the intervention of the Armies from Heaven in Revelation 19 is going to stop what seems more and more like The Beast's kingdom today? To end the murder of the unborn, the pharmakeia from Asclepius being almost literally shoved down our throats to "heal" and quiet "the voices", the need to get okayed [vaccinations=injected with more and more diseases/emerging diseases/plagues/pestilences to "boost" our God-given immune systems included] by the State to send little Johnny/Susie to school so that they will be able to love the world and the things in it, learn that "Evolution is a Fact", etc.??Forced to learn to hate and curse The LORD. Jer 17:5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltanz Posted December 19, 2007 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 4 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/19/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 19, 2007 You must not focus on whether you believe america is blessed or cursed by God. If you just stand still , America is doomed from the start. If you work hard and focus on directing the course to a more prosperous and moral route, you become the prophecy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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