Pastors: Called to Preach, Called to Study

[damo1]

Even though I have nothing against educated people, I'll prefer the Holy Spirit to teach me.

Holy Spirit enlightens.

If you have a great attitude and beautiful smile then how is He going to enlighten you?

thats why education makes a difference.

damo1

to exrockstar

i read what you left for one light and i am now going to ask you a question please enlighten me i am an uneducated man but i have been used very powerful by the lord i ran a group house in canberra wear men wear seeking and asking questions i was on out reach one day and i was able to lead a person to the lord i have taken bible collage students to the cross wear i use to live on the streets and work in the strip clubs

i should not have had to baby sit those that wear educated exrockstar these guys should have been taught what my church taught me when i came straight out of jail with in 3 months i was able to lead teach and reach out i was even able to pray and bring gods word i was taught how to do a sermon and even to the point wear i led sevral to the lord

wear i took these bible collage students threw kings cross and into run down old buildings wear i use to sleep these students freaked out

should some one like my self who has no education no ba what so ever have said no as i need an education to do what christ taught his disciples

because from what i am hearing you teling one light is that the holy spirit only works threw educated people and you need to be very care ful how you place your words exrockstar

i have came across some of your posts in other threads and i wil not have to wear educataed people are picking on the un educated so i hope i am making my self very clear to you i love you as a brother even though i have no form of face to face contac with you

i even hear what you say in some of your posts you leave on worthy

but please exrockstart i do not want to hear that we who are uneducated need a degree

i mean i see people freak out among the aborigonal people i do not baby sit no bible collage student when i am asked i just push to see what 10,000 or 5,000 dollars does for those that can afford to go threw bible collage

and it just cracks me up to why these people are not being taken into the poorest areas and only taken to churches and youth groups this is wear bible collage its self needs to change in how it is teaching its bible collage students

and do what my old pastor did with me when i jujst came out of jail

so please no smart remarks exrockstar or you wil find i wil jump on you my self nicky cruze has pulled up people like your self and i have seen many like my self do the same so i hope i am making my self very clear to you

peace from damo

[exrockstar]

"because from what i am hearing you teling one light is that the holy spirit only works threw educated people and you need to be very care ful how you place your words exrockstar"

while you were hanging out in the strip club someone was writing an exegisis. then you feel you should

be followed just because you had a moment of clarity?

there once was a time when people actually respeced and approached the word of God with caution.

nowadays everyones an expert.

[damo1]

"because from what i am hearing you teling one light is that the holy spirit only works threw educated people and you need to be very care ful how you place your words exrockstar"

while you were hanging out in the strip club someone was writing an exegisis. then you feel you should

be followed just because you had a moment of clarity?

there once was a time when people actually respeced and approached the word of God with caution.

nowadays everyones an expert.

damo1

so if i am hearing you right its only the educated that have a say in how to preach and teach if they understand greek and hebrew and i shoul have just stood back and alowed those with a degree to do this simple act that christ taught his disciples

man i find what you say a little bit offensive rock star you did not answer my question i left in the post as 10.000 payed by a bible collage student means nothing to some one like my self who has been taught from with in

this just shows some one like me wear this topic is going and its only saying one thing

no wonder i did not listen to people like your self who would come into the cross and preach but when some one like my self preached i heard them very clear

work that out

from damo

[Guest]

FARSIGHTED

"While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal." 2 Corinthians 4:18

FOREVER LEARNING

Reading

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Timothy 3:16

Esteeming

Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Philippians 2:3

Studying

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 2:15

Tending To Business

And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

1 Thessalonians 4:11

Trusting The LORD

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Proverbs 3:5

Making Melody To God

Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Ephesians 5:19

Praying The Psalms

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

Numbers 6:24-26

Bearing Fruit

Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

John 15:4-5

Glorifying God

Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

1 Corinthians 10:31

FARSIGHTED AND FOREVER LEARNING

Be Blessed Beloved Of The King

"And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them." Numbers 6:27

Love, Your Brother Joe

[exrockstar]

"because from what i am hearing you teling one light is that the holy spirit only works threw educated people and you need to be very care ful how you place your words exrockstar"

while you were hanging out in the strip club someone was writing an exegisis. then you feel you should

be followed just because you had a moment of clarity?

there once was a time when people actually respeced and approached the word of God with caution.

nowadays everyones an expert.

damo1

so if i am hearing you right its only the educated that have a say in how to preach and teach if they understand greek and hebrew and i shoul have just stood back and alowed those with a degree to do this simple act that christ taught his disciples

man i find what you say a little bit offensive rock star you did not answer my question i left in the post as 10.000 payed by a bible collage student means nothing to some one like my self who has been taught from with in

this just shows some one like me wear this topic is going and its only saying one thing

no wonder i did not listen to people like your self who would come into the cross and preach but when some one like my self preached i heard them very clear

work that out

from damo

i didnt say only the educated.

Einstein was a drop out but understood the law of Physics.

with that being said....we can talk about the gospel til our hearts are content but if YOU have really taken time

to understand a language then you have more educational weight.

The Holy Spirit works with the tools you provide Him.

Did you one day wake up and dream about Noah's Ark? No.

You read it, meditated and were enlightened.

The Holy Spirit worked off what you provided it.

You ate it. He digested it for you.

Can i tell a doctor how to do surgery? no.

It's not that he went to school but he is trained.

Being called out of a life of sex, drugs and rocknroll is not training and it's not a "calling" if youre starting a church the following weekend.

and get off that gibberish that "educated people are arrogant" chatter. arrogance is in every class.

[evetsegap]

I think that a pastor should have a love for the Word of God. I do not think that a formal education is necessary. The best, most knowledgable pastor I know did not attend seminary. The most useless, dry, lazy, pastor I know has two Doctorite degreess. He is a wealth of worthless information, but has no love for Christ or for his bretheren. Knowledge is important, but a proper heart is much more important.

Why, hr.jr. would you trust someone who merely has a heart for it? I have a heart for medicine but have not yet been to medical school. Mind if i perform surgery on you? No? Why not? I have a heart for it. There are doctors with MD's that have left tools in patients and have fumbled the most minor of precedures, and have no love for medicine.

I think its a pastors responsibility to know everything there is to know about the subject he or she is teaching. How foolish are we to entrust our minds to someone who merely has a heart for it. Without knowledge how can we learn.

I agree their heart needs to be in the right place. Lets not deprioritize knowledge.

The problem with what you say is, surgeons do not have the Holy Spirit to guide them and counsel them.

[damo1]

damo1

to exrockstar

whats the matter no formal come back to what i left you i am going to be puting my self so i can understand greek and hebrew since people seem to feel comfterbal with those that are educated also i am going to have to work a second job just to meet the fees that are expected but to me that peace of paper and what i am going to spend on fees means not a thing to me

i study i read gods word every day i learn also from those that are educated as i have one respect i have even sevral educated people backing me up once my citazen ship is aproved to the live in the philippines so much for some one like my self who is very ilitterate yet when god impacted my life to the point wear i submitted my self to those around me and i alowed my self to be taught by the very smartest that came out of bible collage i soon began to do as christ taught his disciples

i am also reading up on greek and hebrew now but their is so much a person on his own can take in and to even learn the old symbals and what they mean

when i share i tread in fear and in caution so i do not place judgment on my own head as people who lead and teach and preach are judged very harshly by god him self

when i got asked to help my partner and i was even told i wil be ordained and raised from with in i at first said let me think about it as too be honest exrock star i did not want the burden that is placed on those that are called to lead and preach and teach gods people

my pastor who took over this church was just like me i got my leaders and my pastor to pray with sevral others as wel and i was told that this is the path god wants me on

what gets up my nose is the smart aleck comments left with out even seeing or respecting that a person typing away in cyber space has feelings as wel and should have a say in how they share on a topic with out hearing every one is an expert it realy just shows me what sort of person you are and how narrow minded your posts you leave are

tel me something how many people have you been able to lead and say the sinners prayer and then have them under your wing and mentor them and encourage them to walk and learn how to use their god given gifts

when i do get approved to live in the philppines and apply for bible collage i am going to have to push my self to just meet the needs asked of a bibl collage student then i am going to have to force my self to study and make sure when i do essays i am doing as asked by my teachers

i have help and i am glad for the help i am getting

so much for what christ passed on to his disciples its as if now you have to under stand greek and hebrew just to be heard

what a joke no wonder i responded to some one like my self but hay i am with in no rights to judge but alow the holy spirit to brodden my mind

and at the end when i get that worthless peace of paper i am stil going to be me but a little more advanced yet its not going to stop me from sitting on a gutter and sharing the word or walking into a run down building and sitting on a dirty floor talking to a home less man

as i know wear i came from and i have never forgotten that and alowed pride to get in the way

thanks exrock star i found what you have had to say worthless

but i am not angry at you i am with in no right to be angry as this is just a forum wear people share their thoughts

peace from damo

[evetsegap]

if a pastor can break down greek/hebrew then they are OK with me.

at least say youve read the ENTIRE BIBLE a few times.

theres alot of ministers and pastors here on this board that the closest theyve

been to greek is by eating a salad. yet they are quick to speak because they felt a

call.

thats why Christianity has a million and one view points. Because everyone with a bible thinks theyre an expert.

[Guest]

STIFLE NOT

The Master Said

"And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us." Luke 9:49:50

Love One Another

"And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment." 1 John 3:23

With High Esteem

"And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves." 1 Thessalonians 5:13

.... then you feel you should be followed just because you had a moment of clarity?

Please Dear Brother A Moment Of Clarity

Follow Who

"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me." Matthew 16:24

WHO

Who Knows The Heart

Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:

Psalms 139:23

Who Holds Up The Brother

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

Romans 14:4

Who's Name

And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Matthew 19:29

Who, The Lord Jesus

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16

Hallelujah!

there once was a time when people actually respected and approached the word of God with caution. nowadays everyones an expert.

Dear Brother

Why Is Your Heart So Troubled?

"Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted in me? hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him for the help of his countenance." Psalms 42:5

THE SENDER - THE SENT

It Is God That Sends

But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth.

2 Corinthians 10:17-18

The Humble

But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

James 4:6

The Believer

He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

John 7:38

The Obedient

Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us. Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Acts 5:28-29

Thank You Lord Jesus!

Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

[exrockstar]

damo1

to exrockstar

whats the matter no formal come back to what i left you i am going to be puting my self so i can understand greek and hebrew since people seem to feel comfterbal with those that are educated also i am going to have to work a second job just to meet the fees that are expected but to me that peace of paper and what i am going to spend on fees means not a thing to me

i study i read gods word every day i learn also from those that are educated as i have one respect i have even sevral educated people backing me up once my citazen ship is aproved to the live in the philippines so much for some one like my self who is very ilitterate yet when god impacted my life to the point wear i submitted my self to those around me and i alowed my self to be taught by the very smartest that came out of bible collage i soon began to do as christ taught his disciples

i am also reading up on greek and hebrew now but their is so much a person on his own can take in and to even learn the old symbals and what they mean

when i share i tread in fear and in caution so i do not place judgment on my own head as people who lead and teach and preach are judged very harshly by god him self

when i got asked to help my partner and i was even told i wil be ordained and raised from with in i at first said let me think about it as too be honest exrock star i did not want the burden that is placed on those that are called to lead and preach and teach gods people

my pastor who took over this church was just like me i got my leaders and my pastor to pray with sevral others as wel and i was told that this is the path god wants me on

what gets up my nose is the smart aleck comments left with out even seeing or respecting that a person typing away in cyber space has feelings as wel and should have a say in how they share on a topic with out hearing every one is an expert it realy just shows me what sort of person you are and how narrow minded your posts you leave are

tel me something how many people have you been able to lead and say the sinners prayer and then have them under your wing and mentor them and encourage them to walk and learn how to use their god given gifts

when i do get approved to live in the philppines and apply for bible collage i am going to have to push my self to just meet the needs asked of a bibl collage student then i am going to have to force my self to study and make sure when i do essays i am doing as asked by my teachers

i have help and i am glad for the help i am getting

so much for what christ passed on to his disciples its as if now you have to under stand greek and hebrew just to be heard

what a joke no wonder i responded to some one like my self but hay i am with in no rights to judge but alow the holy spirit to brodden my mind

and at the end when i get that worthless peace of paper i am stil going to be me but a little more advanced yet its not going to stop me from sitting on a gutter and sharing the word or walking into a run down building and sitting on a dirty floor talking to a home less man

as i know wear i came from and i have never forgotten that and alowed pride to get in the way

thanks exrock star i found what you have had to say worthless

but i am not angry at you i am with in no right to be angry as this is just a forum wear people share their thoughts

peace from damo

not a problem my friend. i wish you luck in your journey.