Christmas Decoration

[Scarletprayers]

There is a house I drove past last night with a beautiful nativity scene in front, I couldn't believe how big it was..................this weekend I'm gonna drive Cam over so he can look at it, it was life size and they had everything, I just wanted to get out and look at everything and..............think.

[Ovedya]

How is any image of Jesus not a graven image.

I don't think they had oil painting in the era the 10 commandments were given.

[AndrewA]

I don't think anyone has spotted the bigger and main picture. You seem to forget that we as Christians are literely at war with the world. The whole political correct thing and people complaining about Christian icons, (last easter our bakers had complaints from people that the hot cross buns had crosses on them and they should be removed as it was offensive to muslims, not being a Christian he obliged simply not to loose profit), this whole thing is simply Satan using those who are not saved to simply attack Christians and God. Have you ever thought how other religions seem to get away with having their statues etc on show? Well guess what, those are of Satan and the world and no one will really complain as they have not been programmed to or told to by Satan, as its not something to attack God over, where as Christian stuff is..

I hope you can now see things in a better perspective, rather then something being politically correct etc.

[Vickilynn]

Are these not considered graven images?

Shalom ruck,

Are you asking this seriously?

Anyone worshiping them? Nativity scenes are not "graven images, " they are not icons.

Graven images definition:

idol: a material effigy that is worshipped; "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"; "money was his god"

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Well, i actually was. But I will keep it at that...a question I was serious about.

Shalom Ruck,

I was asking sincerely, not sarcastically. Just so you know.

I hope my answer has helped you. Any image of Jesus is not necessarily a graven image.

Well, I can't say it did fully. Any image of Jesus is not accurate. But I also understand that for movies, and book purposes..ok. That is difficult to get around. But just for our general satisfaction...

I do thank you for your answer though.

Shalom Ruck,

I just wanted to make sure you didn't overlook a key word in my answer: Necessarily.

Any image of Jesus is not necessarily a graven image.

[Vickilynn]

Shalom Ruck,

I just wanted to make sure you didn't overlook a key word in my answer: Necessarily.

Any image of Jesus is not necessarily a graven image.

I did see the keyword, and that is what made me think about movies and books. But what about those for "decoration"?

Shalom Ruck,

Is the person worshiping the Nativity scene? No. And they are not for decoration, but for remembering. I keep our nativity scene out all year long.

[AndrewA]

I don't think anyone has spotted the bigger and main picture. You seem to forget that we as Christians are literely at war with the world. The whole political correct thing and people complaining about Christian icons, (last easter our bakers had complaints from people that the hot cross buns had crosses on them and they should be removed as it was offensive to muslims, not being a Christian he obliged simply not to loose profit), this whole thing is simply Satan using those who are not saved to simply attack Christians and God. Have you ever thought how other religions seem to get away with having their statues etc on show? Well guess what, those are of Satan and the world and no one will really complain as they have not been programmed to or told to by Satan, as its not something to attack God over, where as Christian stuff is..

I hope you can now see things in a better perspective, rather then something being politically correct etc.

Wow brother, I remember when you corrected me, (and honestly it was needed more than you know) for being "up in arms" about not being able to Bible to work. Your post

Check it out, why should we make a fuss over an image that does not really depict Christ. You and I depict Christ more fully than the manger scene. Or some picture on a wall. We have Christ in us, we are being conformed to His likeness. I would rather "see" the Christ that is in my fellow members. Now that is a beautiful picture.

Yes thank you for reminding me, I should have mentioned this point as well, however got cuaght up in the political correctness thing that is sweeping through this thread, however I totally agree that its not worth getting worked up about having the issue of a nativity in a buisness etc. however this is a little bit different from usual everyday things like having a bible at work, plenty of people like nativity scene even though they never been in a church thier whole life and never even give God a second thought.

If someone owns a private company they are entitled to put up what they like, but they do run the risk of being prosecuted and alienate and offend staff and customers, where as a company or government department already has this no offending thing in place for a good reason, yes it may be politicall correct and evil, but as an employee you have to abide by it etc.

Anyway it is ridiculous to argue amongst ourselves over it, we have to accept we are simply livining in a world that is not our final home and Satan uses every chance to attack Christians and God in whatever form.

I proberbly just complicated things rather than cleared it up, but I hope you know what im trying to say its 0230 that is my excuse anyway

[Vickilynn]

But how do we know what one is worshipping.

Shalom Ruck,

Well, we aren't responsible for what others do, they are. We are responsible for not making our brother stumble. I've never heard anyone worshiping a Nativity scene, but you know there are all types in this world.

Lets say someone said that you cant put up your nativity scene anymore. Lets say that you were told that every picture that you have that "depicts" Christ has to come off of your walls. Would you rebel? If so why? Does the loss of these things stop your remembering?

Ruck, it is my right to have my nativity scene and display it. However, if it meant causing my brother to stumble, I would put it away because the Scriptures command that.

Also, though, if just "someone" didn't like the Nativity scene and complained about it, as in the OP, I prolly would NOT take it down, as it is a symbol of the birth of Messiah. There are people that will be offended by Messiah and any reference to Him. The Bible tells us that.

[artsylady]

Does the bakery really need these particular customers? I'm nearly certain Christians would flock to the bakery

, but then again the people we are talking about tend to get violent if the don't get their way

Political correctness has made everything tolerable except Christianity.

[Guest Biblicist]

I don't think anyone has spotted the bigger and main picture. You seem to forget that we as Christians are literely at war with the world. The whole political correct thing and people complaining about Christian icons, (last easter our bakers had complaints from people that the hot cross buns had crosses on them and they should be removed as it was offensive to muslims, not being a Christian he obliged simply not to loose profit), this whole thing is simply Satan using those who are not saved to simply attack Christians and God. Have you ever thought how other religions seem to get away with having their statues etc on show? Well guess what, those are of Satan and the world and no one will really complain as they have not been programmed to or told to by Satan, as its not something to attack God over, where as Christian stuff is..

I hope you can now see things in a better perspective, rather then something being politically correct etc.

I agree with what you said Andrew. (Ephesians 6:12) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ummm, if you remove the cross from hot cross buns are what do you call them?

How would you sing the song?

I think that would be even more offensive.

[Vickilynn]

Ummm, if you remove the cross from hot cross buns are what do you call them?

How would you sing the song?

I think that would be even more offensive.

Shalom Bib,

What a HOOT!! :24: