Wisconsin Lawmakers to Vote on Calling Holiday Evergreen 'Christma

[O'Dannyboy]

Here is the article at Fox news

If you read the whole article you get that same old deja'vu feeling. However, the article mentions something I had not heard before. "Earlier this year , the House of Representatives passed bills proclaiming Hinduism and Islam great religions of the world at the time of their major celebrations. My resolution offers the same honor to the Christian faith," King said.

While I am glad to see many of our leaders take notice of what "we the people" have to say, they still manage to treat Christians as second class citizens by overlooking our faith when making statements regarding other religions. While these "separation groups" work to silence Christians they completely ignore the religions that our government is working so hard to protect and admonish. These groups seem oblivious to our government making official statements regarding other religions but foam at the mouth when it has anything to do with Christianity.

[Hypathia]

Maybe somebody needs to e-mail this to faux news and while you're at it pass it around to your pastor and other "saved" friends.

Jeremiah 10

2: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3: For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4: They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

C'mom guys, everybody knows "christ's mass" is just a relabeling of a much older holiday that celebrated the Winter Solstice.

[O'Dannyboy]

C'mom guys, everybody knows "Christs' mass" is just a relabeling of a much older holiday that celebrated the Winter Solstice.

You must be God if you presume to speak for everybody. Then again, God gave us free will so it's not likely that even he would presume to speak for everyone. Unless Everybody is a friend of yours, perhaps you should speak for yourself.

Let's ignore the tree for a moment here. That topic is being hashed out in another thread. The point of the post was to recognize that the government signed bills acknowledging Hindu and Islam and yet the "separation" activists only care to fuss about how we name a tree. They are more concerned with the name of a tree claiming that continuing to call it a Christmas tree somehow "establishes" a religion or becomes the Governments endorsement of a religion.

[Hypathia]

C'mom guys, everybody knows "Christs' mass" is just a relabeling of a much older holiday that celebrated the Winter Solstice.

You must be God if you presume to speak for everybody. Then again, God gave us free will so it's not likely that even he would presume to speak for everyone. Unless Everybody is a friend of yours, perhaps you should speak for yourself.

Let's ignore the tree for a moment here. That topic is being hashed out in another thread. The point of the post was to recognize that the government signed bills acknowledging Hindu and Islam and yet the "separation" activists only care to fuss about how we name a tree. They are more concerned with the name of a tree claiming that continuing to call it a Christmas tree somehow "establishes" a religion or becomes the Governments endorsement of a religion.

I didn't claim to speak for everyone; I didn't claim to be God; I simply stated an historical fact. I'd have to look another soucrce besides fox in order to know if their presentation of this story is even correct because they're frankly not a reliable source.

[Leonard]

C'mom guys, everybody knows "Christs' mass" is just a relabeling of a much older holiday that celebrated the Winter Solstice.

You must be God if you presume to speak for everybody. Then again, God gave us free will so it's not likely that even he would presume to speak for everyone. Unless Everybody is a friend of yours, perhaps you should speak for yourself.

Let's ignore the tree for a moment here. That topic is being hashed out in another thread. The point of the post was to recognize that the government signed bills acknowledging Hindu and Islam and yet the "separation" activists only care to fuss about how we name a tree. They are more concerned with the name of a tree claiming that continuing to call it a Christmas tree somehow "establishes" a religion or becomes the Governments endorsement of a religion.

I didn't claim to speak for everyone; I didn't claim to be God; I simply stated an historical fact. I'd have to look another soucrce besides fox in order to know if their presentation of this story is even correct because they're frankly not a reliable source.

Hypathia, please read Alfred Edersheim's THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JESUS THE MESSIAH....if you dare to learn.

[nebula]

C'mom guys, everybody knows "christ's mass" is just a relabeling of a much older holiday that celebrated the Winter Solstice.

From my experience, I have come to believe that the Lord loves to redeem the cultures. If it were not so, why weren't the Gentiles required to become Jews in order to be saved?

But, Hypathia, if seems offensive to you to take what Satan meant for evil and making it good, would you consider celebrating the festivals that the Lord created? (Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur, Passover, etc.)

Edited December 12, 2007 by nebula

[MorningGlory]

Here is the article at Fox news

"Earlier this year , the House of Representatives passed bills proclaiming Hinduism and Islam great religions of the world at the time of their major celebrations.

The above is the crux of the matter........hinduism and islam are basically cults. Why would a legisative body recognize them at all? Christianity is not a religion either, but a way of life in the service of the Lord, and should be recognized above others. Christians are, after all, the majority. I mean, really, exactly how many hindus and muslims do any of you know personally? This will go on until we stand up and force the government, state or federal, to protect our rights along with the rights of fringe groups.

[O'Dannyboy]

C'mom guys, everybody knows "Christs' mass" is just a relabeling of a much older holiday that celebrated the Winter Solstice.

You must be God if you presume to speak for everybody. Then again, God gave us free will so it's not likely that even he would presume to speak for everyone. Unless Everybody is a friend of yours, perhaps you should speak for yourself.

Let's ignore the tree for a moment here. That topic is being hashed out in another thread. The point of the post was to recognize that the government signed bills acknowledging Hindu and Islam and yet the "separation" activists only care to fuss about how we name a tree. They are more concerned with the name of a tree claiming that continuing to call it a Christmas tree somehow "establishes" a religion or becomes the Governments endorsement of a religion.

I didn't claim to speak for everyone; I didn't claim to be God; I simply stated an historical fact. I'd have to look another soucrce besides fox in order to know if their presentation of this story is even correct because they're frankly not a reliable source.

You said "everybody knows" that Christmas was originally a pagan holiday. As far as I can tell, most Americans are Christian and as such they believe we are celebrating the birth of Christ Jesus. Whether a winter solstice was celebrated before his coming is a mute point. That doesn't change what we are celebrating now, and it's not a winter solstice, despite what people may tell you. But that was not my reason for posting. I was trying to bring attention to the fact that our government is presently admonishing religious groups like Islam and Hindus while separation groups are busy trying to remove every trace of Christian influence from our government. Meanwhile these "separation of church and state" groups remain utterly silent when the government flirts with any religion other than Christianity. You see my point?