Mental Illness, why is it treated as a sin?

[Scarletprayers]

You know.............I have sat here and jumped up and down, and as much as I hate to admit it, gotten angry at some of the post here and yet, while reading something above that Vickilynn said and was suddently convicted about something I'm doing that basically boils down to the same thing..........

Thank you Lord................ and please forgive me.

[Yahsway]

Hey Vickilynn, Love you sister and just for the record I am your Sister! LOL okay so ya probably didnt know that! Shalom

[Vickilynn]

Hey Vickilynn, Love you sister and just for the record I am your Sister! LOL okay so ya probably didnt know that! Shalom

Shalom Sister,

Oh I'm SO sorry!! With some screen names, you just can't tell gender. I edited the other post.

[sierra21]

For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND.

But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod.

However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that.

That's all I have to say about that.

[Scarletprayers]

For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND.

But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod.

However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that.

That's all I have to say about that.

I'm okay sierra, but thanks!

[Vickilynn]

For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND.

But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod.

However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that.

That's all I have to say about that.

Shalom Sierra,

Just curious, WHAT ideas could you argue to the ground?

That's what this thread is for!

[sierra21]

For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND.

But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod.

However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that.

That's all I have to say about that.

Shalom Sierra,

Just curious, WHAT ideas could you argue to the ground?

That's what this thread is for!

NOthing that disagrees with what you've said.

But in my present state (9 months pregnant) I just really don't have the energy to get "into it" with anyone right now. I'm sure you can understand. Perhaps in a couple months we could discuss these issues more via PM.

[sierra21]

For those of you that know me and my educational background you know that I could argue some of these ideas TO THE GROUND.

But I also know that these arguments never end, and it's easier to just smile and nod.

However, for the record, I agree fullheartedly with the OP. Scarletprayers, i'm sorry you have been so hurt by some of the comments, you don't deserve that.

That's all I have to say about that.

I'm okay sierra, but thanks!

X 5million

[Vickilynn]

NOthing that disagrees with what you've said.

Shalom Sierra,

That's encouraging! And interesting as well.

But in my present state (9 months pregnant) I just really don't have the energy to get "into it" with anyone right now. I'm sure you can understand. Perhaps in a couple months we could discuss these issues more via PM.

Certainly. I just didn't know why you didn't want to discuss, I wanted you to know that all views are welcome here!

[Vickilynn]

Shalom,

The next step....now that we have established that not all mental illness is unrepentant sin and some of these truly ill people cannot "just repent and get over it", the question comes in HOW to handle some of the things that they do that are:

sin

self-destructive

harmful to others

hurtful to others

criminal

We, as their loved ones have a responsibility to love them, forgive them and bear with them in their illness, but what can we do to help them and not enable them?

Well, as simple as it sounds, sometimes, it is difficult.

Pray, pray, pray! Always believing that G-d knows what this person needs and let Him guide you!

They MUST be shown the truth of their actions from the Word, in gentleness and love, not in condemnation. And since most of these ill people cannot see their true self and how harmful their actions are, we must show them the Word over and over and over...

AND we must be willing to get them help, even if they don't want it.

I had to take someone against their will to the hospital because they were clinically depressed and suicidal. They did not want to go, but we had to intervene for their life.

Any other thoughts on how to help (without condemnation) these people who are really mentally ill?