Be angry and sin not

[Ddavid from NC]

^{Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Ephesians 4:26KJV}

^{If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.} Romans 12:18-21KJV

At what instant act or at what mental event does anger become sin?

[Blien]

Creflo Dollar has an excellent program on the Four Biblical aspects of Anger. I wrote it on my Bible but one of the things that needs to be known is that anything that comes from anger from a man is not counted righteousness...

James 1:20

for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God.

The program is really good and very thorough on that passage you quoted above, take a look at it!

Four Biblical Aspects of Anger Part 1

Four Biblical Aspects of Anger Part 2

[tsth]

^{Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Ephesians 4:26KJV}

^{If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.} Romans 12:18-21KJV

At what instant act or at what mental event does anger become sin?

I think anger becomes sin, when it becomes the "motiviation" for how you act/what you do/how you respond....rather than the "righteousness of Christ" being the motivation.

Some of the definitions from Strongs, for anger:

anger, the natural disposition, temper, character

movement or agitation of the soul, impulse, desire, any violent emotion, but esp. anger

anger, wrath, indignation

anger exhibited in punishment, hence used for punishment itself

of punishments inflicted by magistrates

This one was interesting, as a root word meaning, as a "desire".

to stretch one's self out in order to touch or to grasp something, to reach after or desire something

to give one's self up to the love of money

When anger becomes as a desire, it is sin:

I am reminded of James 4

1 What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don't they come from your desires that battle within you? 2 You want something but don't get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Blien]

Yeah also anger when it is not controlled causes you to sin because you might say something rash and evil or to use the anger to destroy someone. While the righteous anger says, "I'm so Angry about this it is so unacceptable, I'm going to... Love you!"

It also reminds me of the verse in the Bible were it says:

"My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor detest His correction. For whom the Lord loves He corrects,.."

Truly when a father is angry out of love he will correct his son or daughter and bring them back to righteousness so there is a correct and an abusive Anger which the Bible talks about. Anger will motivate us but we need to be careful to lead it like a massive ship with a small rudder into the right direction during a storm.

Let me tell you one story..

I remember one time during my trip last month when I was so angry with a person because of all the evil said to me when I did nothing but good to them, that I couldn't bear it anymore the pain was too much and I wanted to avenge myself. This was the first time I was angry to that point and it scared me that i just locked myself in my room and prayed intensely for God to take away the anger. I told him how I was so angry at the demon who was causing me this grief. And then I prayed for the salvation for the friend and God smiled on me and I saw a bright light shine in front of me that I got startled and turned around to see where it was coming from because it looked like a car was in my room and going to run me over! But from this I knew God was happy that I didn't avenge myself for all the heart ache and unjust things done to me, I was reminded of Numbers 6:22-25. Its such a wonderful thing and a blessing to see when you apply God's commands and the things that follow afterwards, I can't describe to you the sense of happiness and joy I felt immediately after that prayer!

[Grace1479]

my opinion:

Anger becomes a sin when you can't manage your anger anymore. Anything or anyone else which take over the control of you, except for Christ, is in my eyes not right. God had to work in my life for years concerning my bad temper. I got out of control when I got anry, but thank God, He freed me from that. It really took years, but today I can get angry, without loosing my temper.

[OneLight]

One example of being angry and not sinning is found in Matthew 21:12-13.

Jesus Cleanses the Temple

12 Then Jesus went into the temple of God and drove out all those who bought and sold in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves. 13 And He said to them,

[Fraught]

i had a conversation similar to this last week. it seems contradictory doesn't it. on the one hand, be angry. on the other, sin not. i believe anger is only right when it has nothing to do with our own self-interest.

[jackie d]

^{Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Ephesians 4:26KJV}

^{If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.} Romans 12:18-21KJV

At what instant act or at what mental event does anger become sin?

I believe that thoughts are things and that sin begins when my thoughts become harmful to myself or another person or both. Jesus said even to look at a person with lust in our heart is a sin. The moment my mind begins to imagine screaming at someone, calling them a name, devising a way to get even with a person or whatever, even if it has not come out of my mouth or been acted out with my body, I am IN the sin.

[Guest sandee*]

^{Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Ephesians 4:26KJV}

^{If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.} Romans 12:18-21KJV

At what instant act or at what mental event does anger become sin?