This is a serious question

[Richard_yaash]

Just remember this Blien

Isa 41:10 Fear not, for I am with you;

Be not dismayed, for I am your God.

I will strengthen you,

Yes, I will help you,

I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.'

all cares and concerns about everything, belong to the Lord and He will uphold you in every way.

Amen Jackie. Well said.

[Richard_yaash]

that's a good thing Richard, most women aren't real happy about sharing

Nor do I blame them. This is one of the issues the man I am working with has. I let him know today that he is truly fortunate to have a wife who loves him so he should perhaps seriously consider his actions.

[OneLight]

Allow me to point something out to you, which was told to me as I sought an answer to the very same question.

You are looking to invest in something to expand your wealth. You agree to go into business with someone as a silent partner. After awhile, you start to receive a great return on your investment, but find out that they had deceived you and your money you have made came from an illegal practice of some sort. To make things right, you bring the money back, all except what you had first invested, and try to back out. They refused and told you that if you report them, you will also go down with them. You go home to pray and open the Bible for an answer. You set you eyes on Matthew 27:5. Would you follow through?

The Bible is not the Wheel of Fortune or the 8 Ball.

[jackie d]

The Bible is not the Wheel of Fortune or the 8 Ball.

I don't think that anyone here is giving the go ahead to use the bible as the wheel of fortune or an 8-ball...but you know, I have gleened a lot myself from the very thing that our brother Blien is asking about and never have I been admonished by the Lord for doing it. Now it is not an everyday practice as I am not attempting for divination from the Word of God. And I truly don't believe that the topic needs to become a personal issue or stumbling block for our young brother in the Lord. As he learns the word more and more it will be easier for him to locate his answers. IMHO

Until then.....as the Lord leads you Blien. And you may always PM or email me with questions about things, if I don't have a ready answer I will find it for you....

[OneLight]

The Bible is not the Wheel of Fortune or the 8 Ball.

I don't think that anyone here is giving the go ahead to use the bible as the wheel of fortune or an 8-ball...but you know, I have gleened a lot myself from the very thing that our brother Blien is asking about and never have I been admonished by the Lord for doing it. Now it is not an everyday practice as I am not attempting for divination from the Word of God. And I truly don't believe that the topic needs to become a personal issue or stumbling block for our young brother in the Lord. As he learns the word more and more it will be easier for him to locate his answers. IMHO

Until then.....as the Lord leads you Blien. And you may always PM or email me with questions about things, if I don't have a ready answer I will find it for you....

Our Brother Blien knows that I have never told him anything that would hurt him, nor have I ever put a stumbling block in his way. The point that I am making is that we can not use the Bible as a crap shoot answer to prayer. The Holy Spirit will guide him as he studies, and the Spirit may bring him to scripture where the answer lie, but to pray and open the bible and read where you eyes first set is like a crap shoot. It's like taking scripture out of context. Learn the whole word, as the Spirit teaches you, and you will mature.

jackie d, did you look up the scripture that I gave as an example? Was the titles I gave as an example to this sort of answering tactic the reason you got upset, or was it the fact that you also practice it and I offended you?

[jackie d]

The Bible is not the Wheel of Fortune or the 8 Ball.

I don't think that anyone here is giving the go ahead to use the bible as the wheel of fortune or an 8-ball...but you know, I have gleened a lot myself from the very thing that our brother Blien is asking about and never have I been admonished by the Lord for doing it. Now it is not an everyday practice as I am not attempting for divination from the Word of God. And I truly don't believe that the topic needs to become a personal issue or stumbling block for our young brother in the Lord. As he learns the word more and more it will be easier for him to locate his answers. IMHO

Until then.....as the Lord leads you Blien. And you may always PM or email me with questions about things, if I don't have a ready answer I will find it for you....

Our Brother Blien knows that I have never told him anything that would hurt him, nor have I ever put a stumbling block in his way. The point that I am making is that we can not use the Bible as a crap shoot answer to prayer. The Holy Spirit will guide him as he studies, and the Spirit may bring him to scripture where the answer lie, but to pray and open the bible and read where you eyes first set is like a crap shoot. It's like taking scripture out of context. Learn the whole word, as the Spirit teaches you, and you will mature.

jackie d, did you look up the scripture that I gave as an example? Was the titles I gave as an example to this sort of answering tactic the reason you got upset, or was it the fact that you also practice it and I offended you?

yes I did and personally I think that was a silly example as most of us have brains enough to figure out God is not telling us to go hang ourselves.

to begin with you did not upset me nor did you offend me, nor do I see that the verse you gave as something that should cause me to change my opinion of how I answered you or Blien.

It seems you have taken what I said as a personal afront and thought that I attacked when I have not. Point is that God will give His answers and those who do not know where to find the answers to deep and personal questions we have for God need to find them some how. If there is no one who we can trust or who can direct us to verse, then we dig in how we can.

Please don't make assumptions like "Was the titles I gave as an example to this sort of answering tactic the reason you got upset, or was it the fact that you also practice it and I offended you?" you have here about me again, thank you very much.

Learn the whole word, as the Spirit teaches you, and you will mature.

you make a good point here and one that even the most learned Christian needs to remember about others AND themselves. The operative phrase is "as the Spirit teaches you" for as it is written man will no longer teach man. So let us allow the Spirit to teach us and stop assuming that what works for one, works for the other........as the Lord will have HIS way with each of us, not your way or my way, HIS way.

blessings

[tsth]

Dear Blien,

I think it is important that you take God's Word as a whole, rather than just snippets. That can be dangerous.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[~pearl]

Blien, I also do this occasionally, I find it to be ok, after all it IS God's Word. Its good advice to take the verse or chapter into context and not be dissapointed if you dont get the advice/answer you were subconsiously wanting.

I sometimes pray to what God would like me to read at recreational Bible reading time and allow Him to lead me by "flipping".

On the other hand, if you are questioning it, maybe you are being convicted about this. Pray about it.

[OneLight]

The Bible is not the Wheel of Fortune or the 8 Ball.

I don't think that anyone here is giving the go ahead to use the bible as the wheel of fortune or an 8-ball...but you know, I have gleened a lot myself from the very thing that our brother Blien is asking about and never have I been admonished by the Lord for doing it. Now it is not an everyday practice as I am not attempting for divination from the Word of God. And I truly don't believe that the topic needs to become a personal issue or stumbling block for our young brother in the Lord. As he learns the word more and more it will be easier for him to locate his answers. IMHO

Until then.....as the Lord leads you Blien. And you may always PM or email me with questions about things, if I don't have a ready answer I will find it for you....

Our Brother Blien knows that I have never told him anything that would hurt him, nor have I ever put a stumbling block in his way. The point that I am making is that we can not use the Bible as a crap shoot answer to prayer. The Holy Spirit will guide him as he studies, and the Spirit may bring him to scripture where the answer lie, but to pray and open the bible and read where you eyes first set is like a crap shoot. It's like taking scripture out of context. Learn the whole word, as the Spirit teaches you, and you will mature.

jackie d, did you look up the scripture that I gave as an example? Was the titles I gave as an example to this sort of answering tactic the reason you got upset, or was it the fact that you also practice it and I offended you?

yes I did and personally I think that was a silly example as most of us have brains enough to figure out God is not telling us to go hang ourselves.

to begin with you did not upset me nor did you offend me, nor do I see that the verse you gave as something that should cause me to change my opinion of how I answered you or Blien.

It seems you have taken what I said as a personal afront and thought that I attacked when I have not. Point is that God will give His answers and those who do not know where to find the answers to deep and personal questions we have for God need to find them some how. If there is no one who we can trust or who can direct us to verse, then we dig in how we can.

Please don't make assumptions like "Was the titles I gave as an example to this sort of answering tactic the reason you got upset, or was it the fact that you also practice it and I offended you?" you have here about me again, thank you very much.

Learn the whole word, as the Spirit teaches you, and you will mature.

you make a good point here and one that even the most learned Christian needs to remember about others AND themselves. The operative phrase is "as the Spirit teaches you" for as it is written man will no longer teach man. So let us allow the Spirit to teach us and stop assuming that what works for one, works for the other........as the Lord will have HIS way with each of us, not your way or my way, HIS way.

blessings

First, jackie d, I asked you questions. I did not make assumptions. If they were assumptions, then I would of not ask a question. My questions were base on the choice of words you used in the post where you quoted me. I was led to think that you were upset by your own statement ". And I truly don't believe that the topic needs to become a personal issue or stumbling block for our young brother in the Lord." This led me to believe that you saw my statements as both a personal issue and a stumbling block for our brother. If anything, indicating that I would personally attack Blien or put a stumbling block in front of him can be seen as an attack on my post. I was only sharing with Blien what I had been told, which made since to me.

In His Love,

Alan

[jackie d]

The Bible is not the Wheel of Fortune or the 8 Ball.

I don't think that anyone here is giving the go ahead to use the bible as the wheel of fortune or an 8-ball...but you know, I have gleened a lot myself from the very thing that our brother Blien is asking about and never have I been admonished by the Lord for doing it. Now it is not an everyday practice as I am not attempting for divination from the Word of God. And I truly don't believe that the topic needs to become a personal issue or stumbling block for our young brother in the Lord. As he learns the word more and more it will be easier for him to locate his answers. IMHO

Until then.....as the Lord leads you Blien. And you may always PM or email me with questions about things, if I don't have a ready answer I will find it for you....

Our Brother Blien knows that I have never told him anything that would hurt him, nor have I ever put a stumbling block in his way. The point that I am making is that we can not use the Bible as a crap shoot answer to prayer. The Holy Spirit will guide him as he studies, and the Spirit may bring him to scripture where the answer lie, but to pray and open the bible and read where you eyes first set is like a crap shoot. It's like taking scripture out of context. Learn the whole word, as the Spirit teaches you, and you will mature.

jackie d, did you look up the scripture that I gave as an example? Was the titles I gave as an example to this sort of answering tactic the reason you got upset, or was it the fact that you also practice it and I offended you?

yes I did and personally I think that was a silly example as most of us have brains enough to figure out God is not telling us to go hang ourselves.

to begin with you did not upset me nor did you offend me, nor do I see that the verse you gave as something that should cause me to change my opinion of how I answered you or Blien.

It seems you have taken what I said as a personal afront and thought that I attacked when I have not. Point is that God will give His answers and those who do not know where to find the answers to deep and personal questions we have for God need to find them some how. If there is no one who we can trust or who can direct us to verse, then we dig in how we can.

Please don't make assumptions like "Was the titles I gave as an example to this sort of answering tactic the reason you got upset, or was it the fact that you also practice it and I offended you?" you have here about me again, thank you very much.

Learn the whole word, as the Spirit teaches you, and you will mature.

you make a good point here and one that even the most learned Christian needs to remember about others AND themselves. The operative phrase is "as the Spirit teaches you" for as it is written man will no longer teach man. So let us allow the Spirit to teach us and stop assuming that what works for one, works for the other........as the Lord will have HIS way with each of us, not your way or my way, HIS way.

blessings

First, jackie d, I asked you questions. I did not make assumptions. If they were assumptions, then I would of not ask a question. My questions were base on the choice of words you used in the post where you quoted me. I was led to think that you were upset by your own statement ". And I truly don't believe that the topic needs to become a personal issue or stumbling block for our young brother in the Lord." This led me to believe that you saw my statements as both a personal issue and a stumbling block for our brother. If anything, indicating that I would personally attack Blien or put a stumbling block in front of him can be seen as an attack on my post. I was only sharing with Blien what I had been told, which made since to me.

In His Love,

Alan

well alrighty then...

be blessed Alan.