obama convinces young folks that he really can.

[tah]

[georgesbluegirl]

Great - our young people have a rep for not being able to identify the United States on a map, knowing everything about actors and singers/bands, but knowing nothing about history before their kindergarten years . . .

And they are the voice of the campaign.

Scary.

Okay in defense of my generation first of all - this has been a BANNER year for people not only coming to the polls, but being incredibly well informed about the issues. Campaign officials on all sides of the race have remarked about their surprise and interest in the fact that young people, especially, are asking incredibly sophisticated questions about policy, current events, and the political positions of the candidates from whom they are choosing. So don't knock young people.

Second of all, before you accuse Obama of being full of "hot air," read his biography. Sure, I'm realistic about why politicians get into politics - but he hasn't been in the game that long, and there is something inexplicably genuine about the way he speaks to and with people.

I'm going to see him on Monday. =)

Of course, I have made my preferences known...if you can't buy what I'm saying, well, then at least admit that he's not any more "full of hot air" than anybody else major in politics.

[mikhail7]

I am so very sorry if I've offended anyone with my remark about political "hot air". At no time was I in reference to any one politician. The great majority of politicians are guilty of this. Have a very nice day.

[Artemus Prime]

We could use that instead of Solar Energy!

[georgesbluegirl]

We could use that instead of Solar Energy!

[georgesbluegirl]

Aw it cut me off - I wanted to point out that since we expel CO2, technically political hot air contributes to global warming. But I guess harnessing it for power wouldn't be such a bad thing, if we're already polluting the atmosphere with all those stump speeches....

[nebula]

Okay in defense of my generation first of all - this has been a BANNER year for people not only coming to the polls, but being incredibly well informed about the issues. Campaign officials on all sides of the race have remarked about their surprise and interest in the fact that young people, especially, are asking incredibly sophisticated questions about policy, current events, and the political positions of the candidates from whom they are choosing. So don't knock young people.

For the record, I'm in the "under 40" crowd.

And I don't knock the potential of young people. However, I do feel very sceptical about the direction "the MTV generation" is going. (I'm a part of that MTV generation - so I am criticising from the inside.)

What I read in the article is that Obama can hold a great pep rally. What I don't see is his ability to actually lead the government, lead the nation, command the troops, maintain American sovereignty, and a whole lot else in that regards.

Second of all, before you accuse Obama of being full of "hot air," read his biography.

Hey - that wasn't me!

Sure, I'm realistic about why politicians get into politics - but he hasn't been in the game that long, and there is something inexplicably genuine about the way he speaks to and with people.

And that lack of experience scares the weebeegeebies out of me.

Excuse me, Mr. Pilot, but I would rather you have flown solo and landed that plane a few times solo and without the guidance of an instructore a few times before I'll ride in that plane with you - thank-you very much!

[redwing]

i went back to this thread and found a very interesting reply, from a young lady.

This is copied from another forum. "Facts about Obama"

OBAMA'S SHAMEFUL STANCE ON ILLEGAL ALIENS AND PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION

Submitted by bunnytoes on Fri, 2008-01-18 21:53.

After I received that email that has been circulating about Obama being a Muslim (the one that caused the Obama camp to get in such a stir- that they couldn't track down), I decided to do some research to see how much truth there was to it. I found many sites with pertinent information containing links to back it up.

One of the best was "Freedom's Enemies, Barack Hussein Obama" by Beckwith." http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm, another good one was "The Veteran's Dispatch http://www.usvetdsp.com/

A completely objective one was; http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_pas...for_Obama_.html

One of the most amazing things I found was that most of the telling information comes from his own books. It's all there- the admiration for Islam and the disdain for the white race- but nobody has/will call him on it.

The remarks from his books are very, very disturbing. Not content to take the article at its word, I checked out Obama's books from the library and read them. The remarks are there- and they are NOT taken out of context.

Example:

Quote from Barack Obama's book, Dreams Of My Father:

"The person who made me proudest of all, though, was [half brother] Roy .. He converted to Islam."

From 'Dreams of my Father', "In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school"

"I studied the Koran.."

From 'Audacity of Hope: "Lolo (Obama's step father) followed a brand of Islam ...."I looked to Lolo for guidance".

From 'The Audacity Of Hope, "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

From The Audacity Of Hope, "We are no longer just a Christian nation," "We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers."

From Dreams of My Father, " I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE".

From 'Dreams of my Father', "The emotion between the races could never be pure..... the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart."

From 'Dreams of My Father',

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"

From Dreams Of My Father, "never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself..".

From Dreams Of My Father:

That hate hadn't gone away, he wrote, blaming white people some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.

From Dreams Of My Father;

"There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote. "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names"

From Dreams Of My Father, "I had grown accustomed, everywhere, to suspicions between the races."

I went to YouTube to look up his speeches to La Raza (Mexican militant support group for illegal aliens) and heard for myself his pandering of the illegals.

[MorningGlory]

I'm young, and I can smell a con a mile away.

I am somewhere between young and old, 42, and I can see through him as well. It is all talk and no substance.

42? Umm...that might be old.

It's turning the corner, half way to 84.

Well, as long as you feel young, right? Isn't Obama in his mid 40's, and he's considered young.

Well then, I'm young too because Obama is 47...which is a few years older than I!

[georgesbluegirl]

Second of all, before you accuse Obama of being full of "hot air," read his biography.

Hey - that wasn't me!

Sorry about that! I was thinking of another post I'd just responded to and that made it in there.

Sure, I'm realistic about why politicians get into politics - but he hasn't been in the game that long, and there is something inexplicably genuine about the way he speaks to and with people.

And that lack of experience scares the weebeegeebies out of me.

Excuse me, Mr. Pilot, but I would rather you have flown solo and landed that plane a few times solo and without the guidance of an instructore a few times before I'll ride in that plane with you - thank-you very much!

Except that experience has NEVER been an accurate predictor of presidential (even general political) success. Some of our worst presidents have been our most "experienced."

For the record, I can think of at least one person who spent most of his political career in the Illinois state legislature, worked as a lawyer, and served a only couple of terms in Congress before running for the presidency - Abraham Lincoln.