Detroit Muslims Want Call to Prayer

[Cerran]

Basically, Muslims are intolerant of ALL other beliefs other than their own and the only reason that they tolerate them over here, is because they're outnumbered right now.

This is categorically untrue, in fact before the politcal turmoil that happened in the middle east after the second world war, Christians, Muslims and Jews all lived in the same area without incident.

Hundreds of years before that and before the first crusades the Muslims lived in peace alongside Christians and Jews. Then the Pope started the first crusade and started the chain of problems.

Senerhu

I'm with you, I was roommates for two years with a friend from Egypt who had come here with his family since his dad was working for a US company. He was a Muslim, and I got to understand his belief structure in detail. While we didn't always see eye to eye on beliefs we both understood that we believed in the same God and prayed to the same God.

He also explained that the extreme hatred generated in the Middle East isn't as much religiously motivated but more politically motivated.

If you look at the situation there caused by the Soviet Union and US during the cold war in detail it becomes clear why things are as bad as they are.

[Guest kitkat]

This is categorically untrue, in fact before the politcal turmoil that happened in the middle east after the second world war, Christians, Muslims and Jews all lived in the same area without incident.

Cerran,

I'll tell you what, next year, when the Muslims have their pilgrimage to Meccah in Saudi Arabia, let's you and I take a vacation and go there, so we can observe the sites and see just how welcome we would be.

Would Christians or Jews harm or kill ANYONE observing or going to one of our holiest sites?

Kitkat

[stevehut]

Basically, Muslims are intolerant of ALL other beliefs other than their own and the only reason that they tolerate them over here, is because they're outnumbered right now.

Please, let's not generalize too much here. There's (almost) just as much diversity of thought among Muslims, as there is with Christians.

[Guest kitkat]

Please, let's not generalize too much here. There's (almost) just as much diversity of thought among Muslims, as there is with Christians.

Well if you disagree with what I've said here Steve, then you would also disagree with what some others here in this thread have said along this same line too.

Kitkat

PS Steve, I edited my original post. Hindsight is 20/20.

Edited April 22, 2004 by kitkat

[Cerran]

I'll tell you what, next year, when the Muslims have their pilgrimage to Meccah in Saudi Arabia, let's you and I take a vacation and go there, so we can observe the sites and see just how welcome we would be.

I believe if we went next year it would be AFTER the second world war and the political turmoil I talked about now wouldn't it.

Rational arguments people, rational arguments.

[Guest kitkat]

I failed to mention that I was referring to the Fundamentalists and the Fanatical parts of the Muslim community. I know it's a little late now to say this and I know that my posts sounded like that I was including all Muslims, but at the time I wrote my post, I failed to clarify that.

That same gentleman that Senerhu knows as a friend that is a Muslim is also a friend of mine and the thought of him being the type of person that would condemn me or anybody else, just because of their religion isn't even remotely on his mind. I guess I should go back and edit my post to reflect this.

You're a good man Cerran. I believe you have good values.

Kitkat

[Guest LCPGUY]

oh yea, forgot.....

I LOVE STEREO WARS.......

mike

Please explain!

Bro John

[papasangel]

No argument about the freedom of religion issue I just wanted to know why you picked two white groups. Racism is also alive and well in just about every ethnic group there is. And that should not be an issue at all. Hate comes in all colors and the only way to overcome hate is to learn how to if not love, at least respect others for their views. That goes for everyone.

[RGR]

and yes, we have prayed to the same God together.

Not unless your Muslim friend is praying as a Christian ex-practicing Muslim!

[Guest LCPGUY]

Basically, Muslims are intolerant of ALL other beliefs other than their own and the only reason that they tolerate them over here, is because they're outnumbered right now.

Please, let's not generalize too much here. There's (almost) just as much diversity of thought among Muslims, as there is with Christians.

That's true.

The are Muslims who follow the Koran and their other so-called holy teachings, and there are those that don't. Ditto for Christians.

When is the last time you heard any Muslim cleric decry and condemn the 9-11 attack? When is the last time you heard one condemn the atrocious way women are treated in Islam?

I'll bet not to often.

We can ban the 10 commandments but yet allow Islamic practices?

Something doesn't smell right here.

Bro John